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Originally Posted by Diesel911
Which statement is closer to the truth? All Criminals bad or all Criminals are good?
Closer to the Point which is closer to the truth; Being an Illegal Alien is a Victimless Crime or being an Illegal Alien is a Crime that victimizes the Legal Immigrants and Citizens of the USA.
The problem whit this sort of argument is that if you insist on specifics than all you can do is pic some Specific Illegal Aliens and support which ever side of the argument is your argument.
If you look at Illegal Aliens as a group then you have to speak in General because the Good and Bad are lumped to together in a group.
So I think in Larry's case; being forced to speak about the Illegal Aliens as a group also forces you to generalize.
But, actually there are some people that believe that a Crime is a Crime no matter what.
A starving Man Stealing Food is in reality committing a Crime. Even if I think that is reasonable and OK it is still a Crime.
You could say a starving Man stealing a Loaf of Bread is not committing a Crime but I am guessing the same Man stealing a Truck Load of Bread would be clearly considered a Criminal.
But, the circumstances involving the Crime are in our society is important. That is why We have the Court System We have.
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I do not see this as an either or. Rosa Parks siting in the front of the bus was a good criminal act.
Again, no idea where the alien stuff is coming from. We were talking about laws against drugs. In post 244 Larry suggested bank robbery be made legal to avoid carnage. In 255 Bot asked if he saw a difference between robbery and drug use. Then Larry said this in 261
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A criminal is someone willing to break the law. Of course there are different criminals, but they are all still criminal by definition. For those who feel that a law is unjust, there is a whole process provided they can go through to get it changed.
What is sad is to see people thumb their nose at the law, contributing to a lawless society, one of the significant factors contributing to Americas demise.
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Not sure why you continue to bring immigration up but I'm not going there as I do not see the reason.
Theft of a loaf or theft of a truck of bread is still theft (equivalent of robbing a bank). Some of us are arguing that theft is not breaking the law in the same manner that using drugs is breaking the law (see Bots post 255).
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