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Originally Posted by whipplem104
Please do not quote prices of my products and then add + + behind it. There is no +. The system includes the basic programming and the software.
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I posted " last I heard ". What is the actual pricing, what is included in the package / needed in the field and is there an adder if someone wants to go beyond basic programming?
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Originally Posted by whipplem104
Also you are grossly oversimplifying this process. Unless you have done this project then you are leading someone down a path that is very time consuming and difficult to get to work properly on conjecture.
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While I haven't done a 97 swap, I have heavily researched the ME 2.0 / 2.1 system on the 97 C280 , SL320 and E320. ( I have all 3 cars ) Wheel / drive shaft speed is the only thing standing in the way of making the 97 system think it is still in the original car.
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Originally Posted by whipplem104
If someone wants to do this then it can be done but modifying the signal is going to be hard unless you have something that is mathematically near perfection. And you have to have both rear speed sensors or signals for sure. And the signal needs to be acceptable without fault.
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The wheel speed signals go to the ABS controller then ABS talks to the ECU over CAN.
I'd place a sensor on the drive shaft then manipulate the signal with a speedo converter / frequency converter from there. Some research would be need to determine an acceptable tooth count as not to out run the converter.
Non ASR 97 C280 cars have 3 channel ABS and only one rear speed sensor that reads from the rear end pinion so this isn't new ground. If a 97 E320 can be had without ASR / 4 channel ABS, use that ABS module. If no 3 channel E320 , I'd feed one signal to both rear channels or even all 4.
$ 90 for a speedo converter ( frequency converter )
Universal Speedometer Signal Interface
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Originally Posted by whipplem104
Also as I am sure I have said. and everyone seems to ignore on these projects is what are you going to do when you need a new key or Ecu or any DAS component. Nothing you are going to go buy another donor car to replace them all.
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I know 100% that the key / DAS box and ECU are the only parts tied together for anti theft. I've moved this setup from car to car with zero issues. If one part fails, get all 3 from another donor car or at least the DAS and ECU then burn a key as I've outlined below.
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Originally Posted by whipplem104
Or spend thousands of dollars to do what I did and buy key programming equipment.
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You don't need any key programming if you pull what I've listed from the same car. Someone on E bay used sell a reader / programmer for the DAS system. it was about $ 75 . The MCU chip was pulled from the DAS box, read then a PCF7935 / PCF7930 RFID chip burned. I have one and it works.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Mercedes-Benz-Key-Programmer/dp/B00GB7O480 ( Yes I know it is out of stock, from what I recall the MCU chip is a 68HC05 )
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Originally Posted by whipplem104
But that still does not get you around the ecu and other DAS components. If I could have bought an ecu for a few thousand or 5 thousand to run my engine in the aftermarket I would have and it would have been cheaper.
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Our guy has a complete running E320 that I bet he paid sub $ 500 for. Even if he went to a salvage yard, he could get a the key / DAS / ECU for $ 150. That sure beats $5,000