Originally Posted by barry12345

It is possible to become too efficient. Some efficiency loss is tolerable even desirable if it sustains an overall society better. Or the gains of much higher efficiency have to be redistributed much better than currently.

China is a current example of automating as fast as possible. With the intent of distribution of the gains across their society. In many ways it is the same as too much efficiency. That ignores the needs of far too many. without an adequate sharing policy.

People need function to balance their lives anyways. So work towards making it possible. Rather than eliminating their needs. Many old conventions could be modernized if they were not blocked by other interests.

You do not have to resort to labeling it a certain ideological issue. In fact that is really counterproductive in nature. Calling it just a better balance and Having less issues situation with society would be enough.

Taking a region and using it as an experiment should be possible. If it works well others will want it.

To start with if the newer approaches where working so well. Why the need for constant heavy deficits by governments at all levels? In a way they are a failure.

Small level manufacturing is also very problematic today. Where to me it should be much easier to establish. As you move away from efficiency based on monopolies. The support system for it grows back again.

The reduction in the need for people that are truly productive makes little sense to me. Unless we were short of people.

I see a tiny move back locally when the prices of certain commodities have gone too high. Even though efficienctly produced. The excess markups on them has left an opening. Some smaller production is coming back on line. That has been absent for decades. In fact we as a couple are consuming it. Plus the people to people interactions are good.

They may even buy the incidental thing or service from me. Where the huge corporations will not. I do not like driving on only one way streets.