I don't think MB quality is slipping. I think it is because now we are in a transition of technoligy from mechanical systems to electronic. Kind of like the emissions technoligy switch in the early 70's. Just wait 5-10 years, I bet the engines will die before the computers. I don't get what the big deal is about electronics though, maybe because I am younger and more confortable with them. I also am good friends with somebody that is a big Mercedes fan. He owns a 1983 300SD and 86 300SDL, both with over 225K on them. He absolutily loves the 300SD. He also bought a 2001 S430 new, and feels it is the equal if not better then it's predecesors. He says it is mechanically excellent and handles extremely well.