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Old 01-23-2025, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Beirut Brit View Post
You've misunderstood my point. Calm down. I DID check the number on the shocks and they are for the 300D. And i did understand your point about ride height. But you ALSO said that the original springs on the 560 would be too soft with conventional shocks with the SLS removed so i was wondering if shocks built for a heavier load, for example, would firm up the springs, so to speak.

You also don't seem to understand that all of the mercedes in Morocco are imported from the US, more or less, as was mine. There are plenty of 300Ds here. My concern is that when i go to the scrapyard i get cheated. This is a country where people don't say "i don't know" and it is common for scrap yard folks to palm you off with the wrong part just to get some cash in their hand. That's why i asked you so many questions about how to identify if the springs were really from a 300D or 300SDL.

I actually have a friend in Ireland who is scrapping a 420. I wonder how heavy those springs are and whether they could be posted. I have noted what you have said about the 3 nubs.

I appreciate your point about the diff mount but i can't determine just by looking at it if it's sagging or not.

Weird thing is that now i 've put everything back the rear end is not so soft as it was before.

Don't get so worked up mate. We're on the same side. Well, we weren't in 1776 but that's a long time ago

thanks again

MJ

So you have W123 and not W126 shocks. Hit the trash and get the correct shocks. Heavier duty shocks will not affect your ride height. The reason the SLS springs are weaker is because the hydraulic rams and nitrogen spheres in the SLS system make up part of the support framework of the car. That's kind of the point of the SLS system is to keep the rear end of the car level and it is capable of raising or lowering the car with hydraulic pressure. This is not the case with a traditional spring/shock arrangement, the spring takes the total load and is heavier/stiffer. The shock absorber is only there to dampen spring oscillations over a bump, it has zero effect on your ride height unless it's the wrong shock and it's keeping the spring compressed (very likely since you have W123 shocks fitted).

You ask the same questions with different details again and again. A 300D has never entered this conversation until now and you're looking for springs for a 300D or 300SDL? Why? 300D springs won't be correct for any W126 model and a 300SDL is more of a unicorn than finding a 420SEL or 300SEL, both of which have the correct rear spring you're looking for. Unless you pulled the spring from the car yourself, there's no way to know for sure if they're the right one.

Diff mount is pretty easy to tell if it's sagging. Get under the car and look at it. The bottom of the "U" shaped shackle has a pointed tip pointing upwards towards the rubber bits that make up the mount. If it's touching the rubber, it's done. There should be a fair gap between that pointed section and the rubber.

Subframe mounts are similar. There's a metal retainer over them where the bolt goes through. If the mounts are good, that metal retainer will have a good 1/2" or more gap between it's edge and the rubber of the mount. If it's sagged and worn out, it'll basically be sitting on the rubber of the mount. They can get to the point where they literally fall apart and start knocking the subframe against the bottom of the car and making a rattling noise over bumps.
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