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Originally Posted by luvrpgrl
Originally Posted by Botnst
The problem with trying to arrive at God logically and rationally is that we humans impose our logic and reason on God and expect that its presence will conform to these peculiar forms of expectations. This would be okay if God were a rationally or logically circumscribed entity, but I see no evidence to support that hypothesis, do you?
THere are two questions at play, is there a God, and if so, what is He like.
If God created all that is in existence, then logic and rationality are included, hence it would follow he is a rational and logical Creator.
Jesus most certainly had to be a capitalist and a conservative on most issues.
Most seem to mix up the meanings behind many of his parables and statements.
For example, the so called ban on punishment for adultry isnt so. The Jewish leaders were trying to trap him, and Jesus was merely pointing out their hypocracy, He was NOT saying adultery is ok, or should go unpunished, dont forget, he also admonished her and said, "go and sin no more"
Dont forget also the parable of the talents, where the servants were to use the masters money to earn more money, pure capitalism.
Jesus a socialist? Ha, the above mentioned parable proves he wasnt.
Death penalty, apparently He okayed it, cuz he allowed his own to occur.
Homosexualilty, Jesus believes in the sanctity of marriage and sex as that being proper only in a marriage between a man and a woman.
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Creating a universe that humans perceive a certain way is evidence that humans evolved in this universe and are capable of understanding the portion in which they live. Are humans now capable, or will they ever become capable of fully understanding the entire universe? If not, then rationality and logic are insufficient tools for universal understanding. That doesn't mean that God is or is not rational, but it does speak to human limitations in this universe.
Your last statement is an assertion of a proposition as fact. Homosexual rights folks claim that none of Jesus' quotations speak to homosexuality per se, but that his two great commandments encompass homosexual love. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to prove the proposition of the homosexuals wrong, or to prove that your proposition is correct.