as much as i may not understand or like some of the decisions made by Gilly, this forum is volumes better than the other one...and its just an open discussion forum, nothing more than that...not something to get your panties in a bunch about...i dont envy the job you have, Gilly...i wouldnt want to hear incessant whining all day long about who is offended by what....id say all in all, you do a good job of keeping this place nice...even striking my tasteless story off the record