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Originally Posted by aklim
Sure you did. If they work faster, you want to save. If they encounter problems you want to limit your cost to book time. IOW, do it faster, I save. You encounter unforseen problems, you eat the loss.
So what's my incentive to work harder and improve my skills? What makes me want to finish my work ASAP instead of dragging it out to shop time? I have done jobs in 2 hrs that would be done in 30 mins IF I had the right tool. Also, with my fashoning tools to compensate for the ones I don't have increases risk of injury or breaking stuff. Tools cost money. If I were to do a job once, I wouldn't buy that special tool. However, if I do a job many times and I want to have speed, I will buy the right tool.
I wouldn't go to those shops you described. IMO, mechanics are given the incentive to be better by working harder, smarter and getting better tools because they want to beat shop time. When the car comes back, they have to do it all again at their own expense. My friend makes about 80 hrs a week working 40. He gets 1 hr for diagnostic work which if he does in 15 mins, he makes money. If he is incompetent, he has to work for 1 hr and breaks even, if he is totally clueless he works till he gets it right and gets paid 1 hr. That I can trust more than a mechanic that does it on a time and material basis. Now, an exception to that is in the performance area when they install say an unknown manifold and they ahve to fabricate stuff.
A shop has to treat EVERYONE fairly and not just the customers or it doesn't work right. If you treat the customer fairly but don't pay the techs well, do you have any idea what will happen? The good ones leave for other places that pay better and you get the remainder working there. Just like a union situation, if I a good and I know I can get more working across the street, I'll be there till I can get across the street. If I am so-so, I guess it is a push. If I am incompetent, I'll stay there because I know I have some security that a non-union shop won't offer
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The Union analogy doesn't always apply.....where I work you don't get hired unless you have already know the work......we have no entry level jobs....its the Non-union people who have the idiots working there as they have so little job security the good ones leave for other places....I frequently have to fix problems the non-union people screw up.....and Union or not we do get rid of the poeple who can't or won't do their job. I've seen it happen, several times....Thats how the job I have came availible before I got hired. And there were 1,400 applicants to the job I have now. 400 of which actually had the qualifications needed. I was told this a few months after I was hired....
In my job you have to be able to do anything thats needed when its needed.....at any hour of the day or night.....and doing it alone meany s you can't bluff your way though it or get someone else to do it.
Now the teachers Union is a whole different animal.....they embody everything that is bad about a union.