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Old 08-26-2005, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cmac2012
This is an enormously complex issue but I believe that we have a right to criticize Israel as they are the top recipient of our foreign aid (what - $3 to $4 billion annually) and we are somewhat in the cross-hairs of Arab hostility because of our unwavering support of Israel.
Good choice of words, ENORMOUSLY complex. Way beyond arm-chair quarterbacking in the OD section of this wonderful forum. I do love the discussion, and the exchange of ideas and opinions, and I appreciate where you are coming from.

Perhaps the reason Israel gets so much aid (besides the sheer number of Jews in the USA) is that they *are* the only stable, democratic government in the Middle East. We gave money to the Muhajadeen when Russia were "the bad guys" to get Russia out of Afghanistan, and look how well THAT turned out! Hello, Osama bin Laden! Wanna learn some covert tactics, get some free weapons, further your cause? Just help us get these pesky communists out of Afhganistan, they are such a threat to our National Security. Sheesh!

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
The scenario you describe does suggest that Israel acted correctly in '67. What is spoken of less frequently is the years before 1947. Perhaps they had no choice than to go into Palestine the way they did. All I know is I would have resented a lot of what I've read about them doing in the early decades of Zionism were I a Palestinian.
Well, which years before 1947? How far back should we go? How about before the Dome of the Rock was built, or before Rome destroyed Jersusalem? To the time of the original Temple?

I find it interesting that so many times in history there have been those who wished to destroy Israel and the Jewish people - the Holocaust was not that long ago, yet now we have extreme Muslim groups calling for their destruction. Is it because these groups don't have concentration camps and gas chambers and ovens that we are not more concerned about their ideaolgy?

-gil