Colorado Biodiesel
 

Has anyone purchased any injectors from this site?

http://injectors.150m.com/

If this is true, then these are nice injectors.

Contact TomJ (this site). He runs Colorado Gold.

I'd like to try them if they are for real....

I have commissioned TomJ to prepare a set for me. He says he checks for correct spray pattern, good atomization, pop pressure. His gold plating setup is not working but he can plate them silver. I myself don't care what color they are just as long as they work well. I will have them installed by New Year's hopefully.

D Delano,
Please keep us updated for how they turn out, difference in idle, mpg, etc.
Thanks, Adam

unsolicited plug
 

I happen to know TomJ, he is a true craftsman and an engineer. Attention to detail and care of minutiae is incredible. You willl not be disappointed. We work together on car stuff sometimes and he is several levels of mechanic ability above me :P

I am getting a set of 5 for my wifes 300SD from him.

I happen to know him in person as well as grimgaunt and completly agree. I will also be ordering a set when I get my engine.

Tom has my recommendation as well. I recently bought a set from him and he goes out of his way to get it right.

To those whom have tried these injectors, what were your old injectors operating like and what sort of differences did you experience?

Am working on getting a bunch of bodies plated so I can build up some sets for Xmas (probably too late for that already though.)

I have a few sets of balanced rebuilts together now and those who have inquired about them, please go here and correspond from the Colorado Biodiesel site:

http://www.coloradobiodiesel.com/injectors/

Click on the Xmas specials, those are the only ones I have right now.

TomJ, I'd prefer NEW nozzles with mine, balanced to +-2 bar per your Premium Gold spec. Do you have a timeframe for this? Thanks.

Well I'm headed to DEN tomorrow, can I pick some up?
:D

I'd ALSO prefer new nozzles, but buying new guaranteed German nozzles is a pricey thing. I can buy a slug from online sources for $27/ea and most (if not all at this point) will be India made and I'll have to return them and take forever to get my $'s back on them.

Or, I can spend $48/ea for them through a local source that claims they can get genuine German made ones.

If I had been able to do a group buy on them, I could've had them at $38/ea., but not enough were willing to buy them.

Anyway, the jist is, I can rebuild and balance with new German nozzles, but they'll add $50 to the price EACH!

Sure, but it would be helpful to know what car it's for???

Am already running out BTW.

Have plenty of parts, just not enough nozzles to go around.

TomJ, PM me with a total for 5 rebuilt and balanced with NEW German nozzles. I may be getting picky but you know how it is. These are supposed to be a Christmas present for myself. At that time I will decide which option I will go with, but I do know I WILL be getting a set from ya. Thanks for your help.

Since I only have a limited supply of these injectors at this point, I've decided to just keep the sales within the group, so I password protected the Christmas specials page.

For forum members:

User ID: mshop

Password: 59ponton

*Drooling* need money.... want money.....

Just bought a set
 

Just paid for my set!!!! When installed will let you know how GREAT they are.

Just sent off my money order, hopefully soon I myself shall report. I'm excited.

the link for WVO injectors does not work.

Looks to be a good operation though...

Just got back from meeting with Tom. Great guy, went out of his way to hook me up with a set of injectors. I'll post the results when I make the change..

SOLD OUT!!

Unfortunately, I have no more good working nozzles (though I have a box of crappy nozzles, some almost new -India, go figure-, but out of German ones.)

Tried to get the deal on a bulk order of what German ones are left and after the Bosch shop called around, they only found THREE LEFT and they're in three different states.

Bosch USA says they moved ALL the nozzle ops to India. So I guess this is it for this biz. I might take an India nozzle down to a friends co. and check it out compared to the last new German nozzle I have and see what they look like under an optical comparitor and a scope to see why they're such crap, but Bosch really shot themselves in the foot (and me in the head) with that stupid move.

TomJ-
So am I to understand that I'm out of luck? I sent you an email requesting injectors on November the 18th. Did you forget about me? I already sent payment!

Everyone who sent payment will get injectors, I just don't have any more parts for more sets to sell. Everyone's injectors (who've paid for them) should go out today or first thing in the AM.

I'm the retard who doesn't do PayPal. Am I still covered or do I need to cancel the Postal Money Order I overnighted? Let me know.

Everyone says
 

That TomJ is a straight up guy. I would think your injectors will be on the way.

I do not blame him. Victim of circumstance and my own desire to have the best without getting a PayPal account.

I found an injection shop down near where my Dad lives that does the work. Had a nice half hour chat with the guy who seems really nice and thorough. Knows what points of importance to recognize regarding the rebuilding of these things. I suppose I'll have to just have him do it.
One interesting note- I told him about the dreaded and feared Indian nozzles and he told me that all the ones they use are either made in Brazil or Germany. He had never even come across nozzles made in India. I don't know what to expect, all I know is I got 150k on the original injectors and it's time to swap 'em out with something.

I dislike PayPal as well. Tom is a good guy and I'd bet he has them on the way. :)

I'd like to believe that, but it's kind of difficult since the guy won't answer his email. He is totally ignoring me. Why? Is he so busy that he can't take 5 to shoot me a reply and at least say 'sorry bout your luck'? I'd even accept 'sucks to be you'. But totally ignoring me? I just don't understand. It was really really important that I get a set from him, since he's the only one on God's green earth that balances the injectors to such exquisite tolerance. What a bummer.

How many email accounts do you have? I don't check all of mine every day. He may not have seen your email.

He just doesn't seem to check his email too often in my experience. And for some reason my spam filter ate the last two emails he sent me, so if your email client has a spam filter you might want to make sure you aren't missing the mail he sends you...

Tom!
 

I was wondering about the injectors?

Do they have to be brand new?
Can you work on used nozzles?

Yikes!!

Been gone all day today, but answered your question about injectors and payment in a previous post here before I left today. Was at grimgaunt's house working on jeeps and mercedes (was the only day I had to be able to get out there and do that.)

If I had known that you sent a postal MO I could've set aside a set and waited for it, no biggie. I too, think paypal sucks (and they're part of ebay and everyone here knows what I think of them!), so no problem with alternate methods of payment, I just need to know to expect it.

I can probably come up with a set of good German nozzles, but it may take a few days (the yards don't have any mercedes currently), if you want to use the local shop, that's cool and that way you can take them back easily if they don't 'feel' right when installed (rough running, nailing, etc.) Also, you can talk to them and request (for a six pack of Guiness probably) they take a little more time to get them all the same.

I can send the MO back as soon as I get it from the PO (probably even "refuse" it and have it returned, but they may not return it to you very hastily that way), at least you'll get your $'s back early next week that way.

Anyway, LMK, your choice.

BTW, I check all my spam for emails that look legit, so it's likely your own spam filter that's blocking my replies (if I use the yahoo account, it won't make it through many of the spam filters, but the jcgservices@-NO SPAM-comcast.net usually gets through, that's what I use from the website.)

OK I'd like to say I'm sorry now. I'd also like to say it would be a most happy ending to get my hands on a set of TomJ injectors. So, if its doable, keep the MO. A few days is not an issue.

Pull and save has a 1979 300CD. Can you use NA616/7 nozzles? If you can, I've kept the injectors from my 240D and I have no use for them.

Well..., here's something else to muck up the works.

I took some bodies down to the place that coats our competition pistols and asked them to quote on a few types of coatings. They use an industrial Teflon-S finish that is sprayed then baked-on (after chemical stripping the part) and is impervious to about anything. It's similar to what's on frying pans.

They have a Matte (actually kind of shiny) black, olive drab, gray and a new ceramic coating that is silver loaded (looks like electroless nickle.) They're going to quote on a batch of bodies and I think the silver ones would look pretty cool and will NEVER rust or discolor.

You wanted a "primo" set and this might be pretty cool to have. Not sure how much it'll cost, but I should know in a few days.

I'll post pics of the samples when I get them back.

Anyway, whichever you want (non-coated or coated), it's fine, just LMK.

Yes, if they're not the original nozzles, they'll be the DNOSD 240/ nozzle. That's what was used in all the rebuilds for the 240, 300, etc. So..., grimgaunt and I will be taking a road trip to Missouri on Saturday, maybe we could meet somewhere off I-70 and get them. Also, get me a set that you want back to have me rebuild and balance them for whatever projects you're working on.

Uncoated is fine, the form is not really as important to me as the function. The shop I called today said they balance them to 100psi which is over 5 bar and they're not as picky about the nozzles as you are I don't suppose.

OK. One thing, with the commercial shops, close is good enough for 99% of the population. At +/-5 bar per injector (spec for these injectors), many won't notice a difference. I personally notice a difference in more than 2 bar spread between injectors and refused to accept the factory spec on them, That's why I decided to do my own, then a few for others, then.....

Also, that shop WILL be picky about injector nozzles when they start ordering them and they get the India made ones and their customers complain that their nailing issues are WORSE than when they brought the car in. Most will be happy with the stock pop spec, but I'm not and most on this forum are like me, they want BETTER than just "OK".

I bought a pop tester and have been experimenting some with my injectors. Weather or more specifically temperature makes a big difference. Injectors that are fine in the summer may nail when it gets a little cooler outside. Fuel makes a big difference. Injectors that are fine on veg oil may nail on diesel.

From everything I have seen, heard and read locally and on the web, if I were not building my own I would buy from TomJ.

Please Mr. Postman
 

Bring some injectors to me....


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Unexplained Refund
 

For some reason my $183.00 for injectors has been refunded. I guess there are no injectors left. DA-N !!!! :mad:

Sent you an email. Basically, I DO have nozzles and injectors for your order, but re-checking the set I built up about three weeks ago, there is more than a 2bar spread (closer to 5.) Found the problem in my super-duper 4.5" gauge (that allows me to read down to +/-10psi), a spring that re-sets the needle came un-sprung (will post pics this eve.) Have two more gauges on order and should be here later this week.

Your injectors will be sent as soon as I can re-balance the set. You can send payment when you receive them.

Sorry about that. I know everything else that has been shipped was right on the $'s, but one of your set was out and that's what stopped it and got me to testing the gauges.

Sure wish I would have seen this when I was screwing around the last two weeks with glow plug, heater, and window problems.
I eagerly await the possibility of more injectors, and would love to talk about veg oil mods; sent you an email Tom, I know your busy.
Have great holidays :cool:

Thanx
 

Thank you!! I have an injector shop close by, but why rebuild a faulty injector with faulty parts?!?!?! I really need yours. :D :D

Hey TomJ still no fan motor or anything shown up yet at the house. :eek: You planning on trying to send another motor or just doing a refund? Don't matter to me which. :cool:

Tom... check on the nozzles used in the 617.952 powered MB Buses.. GWagens etc. I understand this to be a slightly different one than the 300D's. Maybe german availability of these is better? I hear its a better nozzle for power and better for Vege too?

Sorry I dont have the part number right in front of me.

FINALLY got my new injector tester gauges. Last one blew on me early this week. Lasted almost a year. Not bad for a $200 gauge!

So I bought TWO of them to reduce the down time NEXT TIME one breaks!

Those who've been waiting for this to get fixed will see your injectors (hopefully) before Xmas.

Internals of broken one in upper right:

http://home.comcast.net/~tomj/images/gauges4.JPG


http://home.comcast.net/~tomj/images/gauges5.JPG

Tom sent me a email explaining what happened and I did get a chuckle out of it, UPS sent it to some smuck in Indiana. I had a simillar experience with Post Office, but at least UPS found the package, USPS just told me sorry it's gone they know not where and didn't even offer me a refund on my shipping cost or even a kiss for that matter. It was a package containing two flex disk and a couple other MB auto parts.

I guess as the saying goe's "%hit happens" sometimes. I have something I'm buying from another member here, but told him I'll wait till after Christmas rush. Didn't want the extra chance of loosing it this time of the year.