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mikemover 03-08-2007 01:02 AM

Biodieseler threatened with felony charges!
 
A retired chemist and his wife in Illinois are being threatened with felony charges — for operating a car that runs on vegetable oil and diesel fuel.

The Decatur Herald-Review reports that two agents from the state revenue department came to the home of David and Eileen Wetzel in what one state legislator said amounted to "intimidation."

The Wetzels have been asked to post a $2,500 bond to get special licenses as fuel suppliers and receivers, even though they don't fit the state's own definitions. Eileen Wetzel calculated that the bond would cover their motor fuel tax for 51 years. And David Wetzel points out people who use hybrid vehicles are not taxed for their vehicle's electrical use.

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I knew it was only a matter of time before local, state, and/or federal governments' cronies started coming down on the biodiesel/WVO crowd for "tax evasion".

:mad:

Mike

Quinn8it 03-08-2007 01:06 AM

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/03/illinois_man_fi.php

justinperkins 03-08-2007 01:26 AM

Big oil is losing profits (however small they are), they put pressure on government, government cracks down on the little man.

f'in bastards if you ask me, how much tax money are they wasting in pursuing this idiotic case?

ForcedInduction 03-08-2007 01:27 AM

Its about time. I've been wondering why the states have not tapped them for tax dough for so long.

justinperkins 03-08-2007 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1444056)
Its about time. I've been wondering why the states have not tapped them for tax dough for so long.

Yeah that's some serious dough they've been missing out on. We're getting into such a huge deficit that I guess it makes sense they're squeezing the little man eh? Yup, they could be pulling, what, like $300/year from these folks, damn that's a lot of dough.

Anything to keep the government from having to stop giving big corporations tax breaks...

LarryBible 03-08-2007 07:05 AM

Can we move this thread to Open Discussion please?

mplafleur 03-08-2007 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 1444128)
Can we move this thread to Open Discussion please?

Why? Isn't this diesel related?

loneranger 03-08-2007 08:56 AM

dollars uber alles---sig heil --- form your militias---of course you are gutless and it is 30 years to late---welcome to Amerika. You don't own your own land, you don't control your own children, your polititians are puppets: why worry about it now. I tried to warn people 30 years ago but they where to busy rendering to Ceasar when there was none. Congradulations, you now have an oligachy, your serfs, no Constitution for you thanks to social security. You are a limited liability corporatition under Roman civil law. Put the mark on your head and live with it.

dannym 03-08-2007 09:15 AM

whaaaaatt???

retx 03-08-2007 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loneranger (Post 1444226)
dollars uber alles---sig heil --- form your militias---of course you are gutless and it is 30 years to late---welcome to Amerika. You don't own your own land, you don't control your own children, your polititians are puppets: why worry about it now. I tried to warn people 30 years ago but they where to busy rendering to Ceasar when there was none. Congradulations, you now have an oligachy, your serfs, no Constitution for you thanks to social security. You are a limited liability corporatition under Roman civil law. Put the mark on your head and live with it.

sounds like you went to work drunk today. :D

R Leo 03-08-2007 09:53 AM

My alternate fuel policy...
 
..is to keep my mouth shut about what, where and when.

Old300D 03-08-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by R Leo (Post 1444296)
..is to keep my mouth shut about what, where and when.

To use the latest term of agreement....

WERD.

SD Blue 03-08-2007 11:29 AM

Ditto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 1444128)
Can we move this thread to Open Discussion please?

This thread is about Illinois politics and kind of typical from what we've heard in the past. Over and over again.:rolleyes:

JackG 03-08-2007 12:03 PM

This is nothing more than big oil pressing to make an example of someone to scare others from doing the same:(

spark3542 03-08-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1444056)
Its about time. I've been wondering why the states have not tapped them for tax dough for so long.


3 points to make:
1) We all need to share in paying for our roads, but we need a new way. Taxing fuel worked previously because everybody had to stop at a retail pump to get their fuel. Just like napster forced music publishers and artists to stop crying about the internet downloads that don't pay royalties, and find a new way to get your money. Kids don't go to record stores anymore, so find a new way to get your money. Stop crying that a veg oil burner didn't pay his road tax and find a new way to get your money. How about, at the yearly car inspections that most states have, multiply odometer reading since last inspection times the GVW, and send a corresponding tax bill. Eliminate the fuel taxes. That way everyone pays according to road use and the corresponding burden they put on that road. Find a new way to get your money.

2) Road tax is unrelated to fixing roads. Here in Mass, the Mass Pike has long been paid for, and tolls more than cover ongoing maintenance. Proposals to reduce or eliminate tolls at certain areas have come up on occasion, always to get shot down, and the latest one was shot down by our new governor because there would be "too much revenue lost." Those were his words. No mention of it hurting road maintenance, that has nothing to do with it. The argument that an alternative-fuel-user is trying to get out of road tax and that's the only reason they're doing it is a pretty hollow argument. I use alternative fuels to get off foreign oil dependency. If alternatives get more expensive than petroleum, I'll still use them, and then begin a new search for cheaper alternatives yet that are not petroleum, I will not throw in the towel and revert back to petroleum.

3) I'm baffled that the tone of several posts from Forced is that "Diesel Benzes were designed for diesel and no other fuels should be considered" (to paraphrase). Yet his signature is full of mods, up to and including Methanol injection. Does anyone else see the irony?


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