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Old 11-01-2004, 09:43 AM
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Replaced my upper control arms this weekend

Thanks for all of your help. I did a lot of searching before I replaced the upper control arms on my '85 300D (123). It turned out to be a very simple job.

If anyone else decides to do theirs, I would recommend buying a Pittman arm puller at Autozone or Advanced Auto Parts. However, make sure you get the one made for compact cars, not the regular one. The one for compact cars is smaller (costs about $10 instead of $15) and is the correct size for the car. I bought the larger one but was luckily still able to make it work.

Now with the extra confidence I have after doing this job, I will replace my tie rod ends this upcoming weekend!

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Old 11-01-2004, 09:47 AM
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check the condition of your lower control arms too.......the bushings anyway, plus the lower ball joint. That one is a bear. I did a complete front end rebuild last week.
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Old 11-01-2004, 09:57 AM
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I noticed there was a rubber boot on the bottom part of the stearing knuckle. Is that part of the lower control arm or lower ball joint? It wasn't torn so I didn't pay much attention to it and hadn't planned on replacing it. The boots on my tie rods are all split (left, right and center) so I plan on replacing them.

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Old 11-01-2004, 10:09 AM
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check the condition of your lower control arms too.......the bushings anyway, plus the lower ball joint. That one is a bear. I did a complete front end rebuild last week.
And what technique did you use when replacing the lower ball joints?
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Old 11-01-2004, 10:11 AM
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I am not sure on the 123, on the 116 I have the lower ball joint is pressed into the steering knuckle and bolts through the lower control arm. Mine weren't worn yet but the boots were split (age related not milage) so it was a matter of time. Tie rod ends were showing some play so went whole hog and did everything that was greased or was rubber. My car spent its life in AZ so your rubber might be in better shape.

True I could have gotten away with far less, but I never wanted to do it a second time. And after having done it I REALLY, REALLY hope I never have to do it again.

Coil springs on these things are a real mutha to deal with. NEVER use cheap compressors, good ones struggle with them.
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I am not sure on the 123, on the 116 I have the lower ball joint is pressed into the steering knuckle and bolts through the lower control arm. Mine weren't worn yet but the boots were split (age related not milage) so it was a matter of time.
Just FYI, ball joint boot replacement kits are available from MB dealers -- for the W123, at least.

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Old 11-01-2004, 10:25 AM
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I don't know how long mine were split......was like that when I got them and don't know what had already gotten into the grease. But yes the boot kits are great if you catch them before they split and grease gets contaminated with whatever.
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Old 11-01-2004, 10:40 AM
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Did anyone noticed uneven tire wear prior to making these repairs? If so, please describe. Thanks in advance...
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Old 11-01-2004, 10:53 AM
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Mine wasn't.....but I had visible negative camber, and could see tie rod play when under the car. Have yet to get it to be aligned. that will be later this week.
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Did anyone noticed uneven tire wear prior to making these repairs? If so, please describe. Thanks in advance...
Worn ball joints will cause excessive wear one the side of the tire. But so will a bad alignment.
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Boneheaddoctor, what did you use to press the old bushings out of the lower control arm? Also, what did you use to press the new ones in?

I am thinking of doing the lower control arm bushings on my w126 in the near future and would like to know what tools to have on hand when I rent a coil spring compressor from Performance Products.
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Old 11-01-2004, 11:18 AM
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Me.... I was able to pound the old ones out.....I had to take it to a shop to have new ones pressed in. The ball joint tool at the rental shop I used had the wrong sized sleeve to fit the MB joint. Because of this the rental shop refunded me not just the money for the press they refunded me the money for the Coil spring compressor too.

In hind sight I would have bought the press and resold it used on Ebay or hear afterwards....would have been cheaper then paying the shop I took it to. Silver star motors charged me $120 just to press the joints in. I should have price shopped, sure I could have gotten a beter price at a machine shop.
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Maybe I was unclear, I was trying to find out what you used to remove the lower control arm bushings.

($120 for lower ball joints!! The shop I took mine to only charged $10. It only took them 10 min.)

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