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08-18-2004, 12:24 PM
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Compression?
I have an 81 300D. In general it runs well. I was recently backpacking and parked the car at 10,100 Feet (my home is around 5000ft here in Utah). After 2 says, I came back to the car and it cranked until the battery died. I got my friend to jump me and it took another 5 minutes of cranking before the engine would turn over.
One thing I noticed is that at first it sounds like nothing is firing. Then you can hear a few cylinders firing, but they stop. If I kill the crank and let it sit a few seconds, more fire, then drop out. Sit again, even more, until it starts. I haven't really checked anything yet but was wondering if anything sounds suspicious? I was planning on checking the glow plugs first and proceeding from there. On a normal warm day it takes the car about 10 seconds to start after its sat all night. Once the engine is warm it starts instantly. 
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08-18-2004, 01:42 PM
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I would keep a can of starter fluid spray in my car....
A three second burst when you start to crank will probably really help.... If you search you can find a post by Jim Smith at the end of a long discussion on this stuff.... he did a wonderful job of debunking the " it will explode" if you spray starter fluid into it... NOTE: Never use starter spray on Diesels which have an Air Heater leading to the engine...
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08-18-2004, 02:37 PM
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I still think useing starter fluid on and engine with glow plugs is a bad idea. Not to mention it is very bad for the engine. I would sudjest fixing the problem, does your glowplug light come on? It may be time for a new set. How much blow-by is their?
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08-18-2004, 02:58 PM
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I would think the lower oxygen level and colder temps
would cause some problems. Bad GP(s) would also contribute to the problem. Louis.
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#5
08-18-2004, 07:46 PM
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"I still think useing (SIC) starter fluid on and engine with glow plugs is a bad idea. Not to mention it is very bad for the engine. " ---Hatterasguy
I set up my answer to try to preclude exactly that kind of muddy water being injected into this post in response to my post.... Do you know who JimSmith is ? Did you attempt to find the thread or quote which I referenced ? Did you take chemistry or physics in school ? Do you understand BTU 's ? Where did you GET the idea that using starter fluid spray is not a good idea ? The SIC added in the reproduction of your quote means that you did not spell that word correctly and it was being reproduced as you wrote it.
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#6
08-18-2004, 08:31 PM
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Check the valves and GP's first and then go from there, starter fluid isn't going to do any harm unless you use it stupidly (use too much, make the engine race with it etc.).
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#7
08-18-2004, 08:40 PM
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The first , fastest, cheapest thing to do is to time the glowplug activation...with a watch.... make sure you leave it on 45 seconds... because the factory shop manual says they continue to heat up for that long if left on.. then attempt to start...
PS..... that is why I specified the three second burst on the Starter spray....
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