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Old 11-20-2004, 03:08 PM
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300TD refuses to overheat - Good or bad?

I drove out to Las Vegas on Tuesday and came back yesterday, and I noticed something a little funny with the coolant temperature.

On the way there going up a fairly short grade which I drive a lot the temps didn't pass (or even reach) the 100 C mark, though it usually gets to about 105 by the top of that grade. I thought maybe the car was having a good day.

On the way back I had to drive up a very long grade on the I-15 just out of Nevada. The car performed much better than usual - I didn't drop below 75 and I didn't have to move out of the fast lane :-). However, this still required me to floor it the entire way up, and my EGT showed about 1200 degrees the entire time (normal on grades like that) so I was completely boggled when, after four or five minutes of this, my coolant gauge was still reading below 100 C.

Is it possible? The outside air temp was 63, not too cool. Is my temperature gauge or the sensor maybe messed up? The gauge reads totally normal, just what you'd expect, under normal conditions; it's just that it doesn't seem to want to go beyond 95 C.

On a different note, on one of the long, empty downhill stretches of the desert I got my wagon up to 5200 RPM... somewhere between 105 and 112 MPH (damned 85 MPH speedo...). It ran and idled incredibly smoothly after that - I haven't started it yet today but I hope it stays that way!
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Old 11-20-2004, 03:20 PM
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Same with my '76- now that it's cooler outside, the temp. guage barely gets off the peg. When I asked the forum, most replied that my thermostat must be stuck open. Haven't bothered to check it because I'm putting the car away for the winter in 2 weeks anyway.

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Old 11-20-2004, 03:23 PM
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I drove out to Las Vegas on Tuesday and came back yesterday, and I noticed something a little funny with the coolant temperature.

On the way there going up a fairly short grade which I drive a lot the temps didn't pass (or even reach) the 100 C mark, though it usually gets to about 105 by the top of that grade. I thought maybe the car was having a good day.

On the way back I had to drive up a very long grade on the I-15 just out of Nevada. The car performed much better than usual - I didn't drop below 75 and I didn't have to move out of the fast lane :-). However, this still required me to floor it the entire way up, and my EGT showed about 1200 degrees the entire time (normal on grades like that) so I was completely boggled when, after four or five minutes of this, my coolant gauge was still reading below 100 C.

Is it possible? The outside air temp was 63, not too cool. Is my temperature gauge or the sensor maybe messed up? The gauge reads totally normal, just what you'd expect, under normal conditions; it's just that it doesn't seem to want to go beyond 95 C.

On a different note, on one of the long, empty downhill stretches of the desert I got my wagon up to 5200 RPM... somewhere between 105 and 112 MPH (damned 85 MPH speedo...). It ran and idled incredibly smoothly after that - I haven't started it yet today but I hope it stays that way!

If your thermostat has been in there a long time, I'd change it.

Joe B.
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Old 11-20-2004, 03:27 PM
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If your thermostat has been in there a long time, I'd change it.

Joe B.
My car had similar symptoms and after changing is back to normal.

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Bill
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Old 11-20-2004, 03:33 PM
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My car had similar symptoms and after changing is back to normal.

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Bill
Staying 95 C when you'd expect it to be 105-120 C? The thermostat should open up completely between 80 to 90 C anyway, so I don't see how the thermostat can have any effect on the upper range of temperatures. (Nor does it necessarily seem to be a problem that my car isn't overheating... I'm more worried it IS and my gauge or sensor isn't telling me about it.)
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Old 11-20-2004, 03:45 PM
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I've had this problem before and I changed the thermostat and everything went back to normal. It kind of sucked cause I live in Jersey and the car was blowing NO HEAT
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Old 11-20-2004, 03:53 PM
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I've had this problem before and I changed the thermostat and everything went back to normal. It kind of sucked cause I live in Jersey and the car was blowing NO HEAT
Are you guys reading my posts or just the thread title? I wish I'd titled it something else. The car gets plenty hot, heater works fine, etc. etc. It just doesn't get TOO HOT, ie. over 100 C.
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Old 11-20-2004, 03:29 PM
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As I said, it functions completely normally unless I push it very hard up a steep grade. It warms up normally, tops out a little over 80 C in normal driving, etc. Nothing is different except how it acts on grades (when the thermostat should be wide open anyway!). It isn't too cool in normal driving and has no problem warming up in the morning...
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