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Krawsczyn 02-19-2005 11:20 AM

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My rabbit's manual says you are suppose to give it two minutes at accelerated idle before shutting it down. I have it for Bad weather plus it is turned up and it puts a smile on my face being able to blow black smoke. I know this is bad for the motor but hell i only paid $200 for the car. I look at it as a safety procedure for tailgaters in this tiny car. :D

nuetronicretard 02-19-2005 11:59 AM

I Shut off me diesel whilst she is stilll rolling...i found that it really saves on brake ware. :cool: I also enjoy to huff the black substance that comes out of me diesel. Makes me head feel funny, gives me total protonic reversal. :dead:

braverichard 02-19-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Krawsczyn
When you are running the piss out of any motor the head kids hot and if it is aluminum then it will expand and contract differently than the cast iron block. This can make the head crack or make the motor blow a head gasket. I know from personal experience. It sucks! :mad:

Oh so on an all aluminum engine like the M117 that unequal expansion won't exist so you won't have that problem right?

nuetronicretard 02-19-2005 12:38 PM

Thats crazy man.
you have to allow all aluminum block to idle down also. the head develops more heat than the rest of the motor. :)

aklim 02-19-2005 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Krawsczyn
My rabbit's manual says you are suppose to give it two minutes at accelerated idle before shutting it down. I have it for Bad weather plus it is turned up and it puts a smile on my face being able to blow black smoke. I know this is bad for the motor but hell i only paid $200 for the car. I look at it as a safety procedure for tailgaters in this tiny car. :D

But what does the Mercedes manual say about MB cars?

nuetronicretard 02-19-2005 12:45 PM

What doesn't the MB bible say? If you don't know what it says, then you need to study it more.

Brian Carlton 02-19-2005 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nuetronicretard
What doesn't the MB bible say? If you don't know what it says, then you need to study it more.

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Originally Posted by nuetronicretard
Thats crazy man.
you have to allow all aluminum block to idle down also. the head develops more heat than the rest of the motor.

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Originally Posted by nuetronicretard
I Shut off me diesel whilst she is stilll rolling...i found that it really saves on brake ware. :cool: I also enjoy to huff the black substance that comes out of me diesel. Makes me head feel funny, gives me total protonic reversal. :dead:


The results are obvious. :rolleyes:

nuetronicretard 02-19-2005 01:00 PM

me motor cast iron

Hatterasguy 02-19-2005 02:25 PM

Someone sounds like thier a little drunk. :rolleyes:

aklim 02-19-2005 02:31 PM

Did I miss something because I don't remember my owner's manual telling me to wait for X seconds before shutting downt he motor.

rdanz 02-19-2005 02:39 PM

My other car the 83 sd which I have had for 14 years has 283000 and I'm wondering if I should start letting it idle before I shut it off?
Original Turbo works fine.

Hatterasguy 02-19-2005 02:44 PM

Aklim with any turbo charged engine you should let the turbo spool down before you shut it down. SOP in the marine world.

VeeDubTDI 02-19-2005 02:47 PM

I prefer to feel the raw accelerative forces of the 603, and have a tendency to hit 8 - 12 PSI regularly. http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/naughty.gif Cruising at 55 mph doesn't require much boost, but 70+ does.

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Originally Posted by DslBnz
Up to about 45 mph, my SDL produces nearly no boost at all from the turbo(< 1 psi).

There is no need to let the car idle for 30 seconds, or any time at all, in my case.


phidauex 02-19-2005 03:28 PM

I tend to agree with aklim here.. Our turbos aren't the most 'hardcore' turbos in the world, and they don't get that hot, and they spin down fast. By the time I've pulled into my parking space and taken off my seatbelt, I'm sure that things are just fine. I'm not aware of any suggestion (for the OM617) from MB about idling down. Now, you probably would not want to shut the engine down while going 70mph under max boost, but in the real world our slowing down, parking and stopping provide enough time to prevent problems.

But then again, this does sound a lot like an oil debate, no one has any numbers, and plenty of anecdotes regarding engines that are incredibly different from ours. If you want to idle down, thats fine, you aren't using that much fuel, and maybe it does help and my poor turbo is going to eject itself from the car next week. ;)

peace,
sam

VeeDubTDI 02-19-2005 03:37 PM

The only thing in the owner's manual relating to cooling down says that you should run the engine at elevated idle until the coolant temperature returns to normal. This only applies when the coolant temp is above normal, say 105°C+.

Coasting or light driving through neighborhoods is more than sufficient to cool the turbo.


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