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Old 10-24-2005, 03:28 PM
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Exclamation Almost busted timing chain

A few weeks ago, I changed my timing chain because I knew it was stretched and there was a ticking sound coming from the camshaft sprocket area. As I rolled out the old chain, I found the master link part almost totally disintegrated. Only the middle link was still holding the chain together. Here are some pictures of the timing chain master link area after I removed it from the engine.

The top picture shows the front view of the master link which is missing the circlip part.

The middle picture shows the rear view of the master link with a (busted link)

The lower picture shows the master link part along side the center link that held the chain together for I-don't-know-how-long. Notice the oval holes worn in the center link part. The wear in these parts allowed the chain to flop outwards on the camshaft sprocket about 1/8", which explains the ticking sound I heard.

The chain pins have worn heads showing that they have been wearing on something (maybe the chain guides), preventing them from sliding out. It seems like this master link is the kind with the circlip end, not the peened end type.

I didn't see any damage to the upper chain guide, the banana tensioner slide or the tensioner. All seemed to be OK. The ticking sound is gone. I guess this is what these chains look like just before they disintegrate.

Had I known that the master link was this bad, I could have saved the hassle of grinding a swaged link away to get the old chain apart. I could have just pulled the master link out with my fingers.

1979 300D with 120k mi, but I suspect the odometer has been rolled back.

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Old 10-24-2005, 04:12 PM
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Damn! You got lucky, nice find.
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:25 PM
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heckuva good reason for not using the clip type retainer!
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:40 PM
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Wow, you are fortunate.

I just checked the 617 for stretch over the weekend after reinstalling the chain.

2.5° using the mark on the tower. Not bad for 185K. Probably the original chain.
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:27 PM
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whats the link to that page for how to check chain stretch on 60x and 617 engines? I lost it when my old comp died.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:01 PM
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whats the link to that page for how to check chain stretch on 60x and 617 engines? I lost it when my old comp died.
I don't have a link, but can advise on the 617 if you need it. You can do it the fast way using the tower marks or the proper way using 2mm lift on the #1 intake valve.

The fast way requires no tools and you can get a quick read in minutes.

LMK which way you want to go.

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