Yes, folks, you read it correctly. This SDL was getting 175 MPG. Unbelievable, you say? Well, I drove it for 500 miles and I can assure you that it definitely got 175 MPG of oil!

The story starts here:

It Might be Time to Sell

I couldn't pass up the opportunity to take on a vehicle like this and finally had the time to go down and get it. The costs to ship it were $600. and I could fly down and bring it back for about $400. Additionally, I could stop at a customer and a mechanic in Raleigh. So, the decision was made to go and get it.

Sure enough, this SDL smokes enough to scare the skeeters away. But, I was ready with a gallon of Rotella and I took it to the hotel the first night without too much fanfare. Smokes a tremendous amount on accelerations.

The next day it was down about 1.5 quarts after driving about 50 miles. Not a good sign. Topped it off and headed out to Raleigh the next afternoon. Went about 150 miles and stopped for some food and found it to be two quarts low again. Filled it and headed out for the remainder of the trip.

At about 250 miles, outside of Charlotte, I hit some major traffic and the smoke was intolerable. So, I headed off the road to take a break from the traffic and buy some oil. Checked the oil and it was down two quarts again. Added the remainder of my first gallon. Found a Wal-Mart and bought three gallons of Rotella. Topped the engine off with another quart and proceeded to get back on the freeway. Traffic now acceptable.

At about 350 miles, the oil pressure starts dropping. I pull over in the dark and add three quarts until the light goes out. Oil pressure returns and I complete the 425 mile trip to the hotel. Check it at the hotel and it's down another 2 quarts.

Bring it to the mechanic the next morning.

Disconnect the crossover tube and the entire tube and exit from the turbo is soaked with oil. We start it with the crossover removed and the oil is clearly coming from the turbo and not from the valve cover (very low blowby). Well, he certainly can't get a turbo on the day before Thanksgiving, so, I take a couple of gallons of oil and head out for Virginia Beach (200 miles.) I figure that it might not make it to NY, but it should go 200 miles, right?

Bad decision.

40 miles from the mechanic, the oil pressure drops. I pull over and lift the hood, and to my horror, find oil completely covering everyhing in sight..........all over both sides of the engine. Oil all over the area behind the driver's headlight, all over the exhaust manifold, all over the hood pad. Looked like someone hosed it down with Rotella. Well, I put three quarts in it and tried to find a massive leak. Didn't seem to be a leak anywhere. Engine sounded fine and oil pressure was up.

Turned it around and tried to make it the 40 miles back to the mechanic. Made it about 25 miles and oil pressure dropped. Pulled over and added all my remaining oil (three more quarts). Started it up and tried, again, to make the mechanic.

Got another 5 miles and hit traffic for road construction. That was the kiss of death. The engine loaded up on oil, at idle, and started to shake, rather badly. I went to pull it off the road and it complained bitterly with a hard rapping sound for about two seconds. Then it was fine. Shut it down. Called for the mechanic. He came out and we started it together. Seemed fine. He couldn't see any oil leak other than the internal leak the we already confirmed. But, we agreed, let's tow it.

So, it was towed back to his shop and now will need a replacement turbo and we'll see what happens after that.

I resumed by trip, via Greyhound, which took the remainder of the day (8 hours) to get from Raleigh to Virginia Beach.

Interesting trip. I never believed an engine could suck down as much oil as this one did. Surprisingly, out on the highway, you really couldn't see any smoke trail behind you. But, at slow speeds, the manifold would load up heavily on oil, which would all head for the cylinders when you opened the rack on the next acceleration.

In hindsight, it was not a good decision to drive it. The oil consumption was significantly more then was safe for an extended trip.

However, it might be possible that the entire issue with this engine is a bad turbo. It has less blowby at idle then my current SDL and mine has very little. So, I remain optimistic that this vehicle can be resurrected without a lower end repair/replace.

hmmmmm. I guess you learned your lesson then. If you don't mind, how much did this SDL cost you? I wish I could find cars like that which I could fix, etc. that weren't rust buckets. How's the rest of the car? It's kind of funny because you only would have saved $200 by driving it, next time ship a smoker

Happy Thanksgiving
David

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Yep, hindsight is 20:20. But, I wanted an independent opinion from an indy and I needed to see a customer along the way, so, I rolled the dice and lost. Oh, well.

The vehicle is in good shape overall. The previous thread by Hal details all the issues that it has. The interior is excellent. There is no rust. The exterior has clearcoat peel and the dark blue is a bit tired. The transmission shifts flawlessly. It has no power, whatsoever, due to the fact that the boost line from the manifold gets completely filled with oil. Hopefully, the ALDA is not filled up as well.

The cost was $2K.

That reminds me of my interesting trip to the Outer Banks in my old 300D. The sucker had like 330,000 miles and was very slow out of the hole. Anyway, I set out late at night and filled up in Breezewood, PA and hit the highway. I never stopped until I got to Kitty Hawk early the next morning. I filled a 16 oz. cup with spit along the way (copenhagen). When I stopped I had a little more than a 1/4 tank of fuel left. When I topped off the oil before I left I discovered I used about 3 qts. It got me there and back though.

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It sounds like the turbo seals are non existent!! Thats the only thing that I can come up with. How do the oil cooler lines look?

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the 616 in my car throws oil, it only seems to do it when the hood is closed... (higher RPMs)

Although, it doesn't quite bathe itself in oil, like the incident you described.

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Was there raw oil coming out of the exhaust.. dripping?

Let's hope it's just turbo seals.. and no damage was done to the engine.

glinko, check your oil cooler hoses.

Brian, doesn't sound like a bad deal. Also, if the oil consumption hurt anything, I might suspect a clogged catalyst. In fact, you may be able to count on that.

Thanks
David

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Well seems like the engine survived all those pressure drops from the fact that the engine always sounded fine after the oil top offs. Well, you rolled the dice and lost indeed, but that's how life is. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Just have to move on. I've read many stories like yours: buy a car, get a shipping quote, turns out quote is $100-$300 more than what it should cost you to fly to the car and drive it home, but in the end, you spend way more than the cost of shipping the car due to incidents. Oh well!!

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It appears that all the oil was all going to the intake. No oil dripping out the exhaust, or it was burning off after the turbo.

The engine oil pressure never fell below 2.0 at speed, so, I'm not worried about the bearings.

I am worried about the two "rapping" events, lasting two seconds, where, apparently, the engine was close to a hydrolock on oil and the noise was probably the piston slapping against the chamber full of oil. I'm praying that I didn't bend a rod.

The turbo only uses steel sealing rings. When I was prepping turbo Supras, we used to restrict the turbo oil feeds down to .040" to keep from pushing oil past the sealing rings...Robert

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

for a stranded owner with the exact same symptoms.


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Noise Vibration and Harshness (NVH).
Dynamometer.
Heat exchanger durability.
HV-A/C Climate Control.
Vehicle build.
Fleet Durability
Technical Quality Auditor.
Automotive Technical Writer

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I had a 1975 300D W115 it had a massive oil leak. It would leak about 7.5 quarts of oil out in about 10 minutes.
I thought it was coming from the oil filter but it turns out it was coming from the oil line that was feeding oil to the turbo, at first it started leaking small amounts then it would leave an actual trail of oil behind it, then it got towed and is now up for sale. The only way to fix the line was to pull the motor. Well i pulled the motor and trans then an offer came up for a beautiful 1984 300D came up that I couldn't pass up. so I bought it. Well my dad is forcing me to sell my W115, or else he will give it to http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/images/icons/icon8.gif
Angry

your link is to a Smilie

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