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Go In Snow???
1983 300D w123
I'm planning to buy 4 new snow tires for this car. How is the 300D in the snow with snow tires? I'm not going to stud them since I'm in RI and the roads are not iced up all winter. I have two choices, my rear drive Mercedes or my rear drive Mazda. The Mazda had 4 new snows about 5 years or so ago and if I remember right it helped quite a bit. How much weight should I put in back. I generally like to carry kitty litter since it'll help with traction too if needed. Mostly, I'm asking those of you who need to drive these in really crappy weather, do the snows make a world of difference on these cars. I used it last winter on not very great regular tires and got into a lot of trouble a couple of times. Going to use 195/70 14s. Firestone winterforce tires. Thanks for any and all advice.
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Snow tires are worth the money. I run four studded on all my vehicles. I keep them mounted on their own rims and don't put them on till I need to and take them off as soon as I don't anymore. They last me for years. For you I would use Nokia hakkapalita or Brigstone Blizzacks. They give you the proformance of a studded tire without the studs. They both are great tires, not cheap but worth the money. You have the right idea with the narrow tires. They perform better in the snow. A bag of sand in the trunk is a good idea. I don't use any extra weight back there the car is heavy enough. I pull my two snowmobiles with my 300d in the snow with no trouble.
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I recommend the Bridgestone Blizzacks. I have run them on my 83 240D for 2 winters, and this year put them on my 83 300SD. They make a huge difference, and I cannot image trying to get through winter without them.
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I have run snow tires on my 300TD for the last three years. I had Firestones for two years. They were worn out this season so I now have Michelin X-ICE. Today was my first day with them on the car. Highway ride is great with no extra road noise. The car with snow tires handles very well in any snow. We'll see about the new tires in the morning - prediction is 3"-5".
Since putting snow tires on our three cars, I would not go through a winter without them. The other tires are Blizzaks on a Subaru Wagon (2wd) and Michelin Arctic Alpins on my son's Honda Civic. All are on dedicated rims. I picked up a set of alloy rims from the scrap yard for $125.00. Checking your post - those are the same Firestone Tires that I had. I would have gotten them again, but Costco does not carry them. Hope this helps. Paul
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for myself
i always buy all season michelin tires. and in a 300d you need a hundred pounds in the back to really go good in the snow. i have never bought snow tires. but i always keep good tread on my tires and never go wider than stock. narrow tires are best in snow.
studs are long ago made illegal here. to hard on the roads. dont put salt in the trunk. sand is best. or other heavy objects like extra wheels with tires on them. course if you have four wheels in the trunk you dont have much room for anything else. the most important thing is to have a little more weight in the back than on the front tires. if you have more on the front snow tires wont help that much. tom w
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I run a set of 4 Nokian WRs year round. They are severe weather rated and have an 80k mile warranty. I have 2, 70lb tubes of sand in the trunk. So far they have been great in the snow and other weather we get here in Denver. For what it's worth. By the way Discount Tire ordered them for me at a good price. Good luck.
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you have to be
careful with the weight. too much and the front will skate too much. so be cautious til you find the proper balance. my sdl was wanting to skate the front the last few days on some slippery wet snow. not much weight in the back at all. misc junk and one 240 flywheel.
tom w
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Four Goodyear assurance Triple-Tread tires here, and they work great, I blast through the snow w/out a problem. This is year two with them. Our van has worn out generic tires on the back, and michelin something or other all seasons on the front, with maybe 25-30% tread on all of them, and it also never gets stuck or really has a problem. It does slide around slowing down more than the SD's do though. More prone to it anyways.....
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I put Blizak WS-50 tires on all 4 corners of my 300D on the stock Bundt cake rims that were taking up garage space....
Have seen a little snow twice on them and they bite where my honda with all season tires would have beens sliding and spinning. This weekend we have another 6" + comming...will see how they do then...
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Proud owner of .... 1971 280SE W108 1979 300SD W116 1983 300D W123 1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper 1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel 1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified) --------------------- Section 609 MVAC Certified --------------------- "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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The owner(s) must be from Michigan
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Proud owner of .... 1971 280SE W108 1979 300SD W116 1983 300D W123 1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper 1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel 1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified) --------------------- Section 609 MVAC Certified --------------------- "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Proud owner of .... 1971 280SE W108 1979 300SD W116 1983 300D W123 1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper 1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel 1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified) --------------------- Section 609 MVAC Certified --------------------- "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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