603 #17 Cylinder Head On Sale Ebay - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Rich300TDMBZ · #1 01-09-2006, 08:01 PM

I saw this on Ebay, a #17 head for sale. For those who has a cracked #14 head, this is a good opportunity to get it. I'm not associated with the seller in any way.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300SDL-Turbo-Diesel-Cylinder-Head_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33675QQitemZ8028059623QQrdZ1

speedy300Dturbo · #2 01-10-2006, 03:51 AM

IMO, this is a steal if the head is indeed crack free. Getting a used non#14 head complete with cams, valves, prechambers, etc. avoids a LOT of the hassle involved with buying a new, bare head.

lietuviai · #3 01-10-2006, 04:17 PM

I'm just curious as why the seller didn't want to sell the whole engine.

TimFreeh · #4 01-10-2006, 04:54 PM

Because he knows the head is a hot item and it's much easier to ship than an entire engine. There are also more people looking for a good OM603 cylinder head than there are people with the means/ability/desire/storage room to purchase an entire engine.

The seller keeps mentioing the "buy-it-now" price in his item description?

Is this price listed somewhere in his auction or am I too dense to be able to find it?

Ken300D · #5 01-10-2006, 04:56 PM

I think I see cracks.

Ken300D

BodhiBenz1987 · #6 01-10-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TimFreeh

Because he knows the head is a hot item and it's much easier to ship than an entire engine. There are also more people looking for a good OM603 cylinder head than there are people with the means/ability/desire/storage room to purchase an entire engine.

The seller keeps mentioing the "buy-it-now" price in his item description?

Is this price listed somewhere in his auction or am I too dense to be able to find it?

Once a bid is made, the Buy It Now option is eliminated ... since people have already bid on it, it's a free-for-all now.

Rich300TDMBZ · #7 01-10-2006, 05:04 PM

Interesting point about cracks. Although the #17 is less prone to cracks, there is still the possibility. One does not know what the last guy did to the engine

Is there a procedure to test for crack(s)?

Eskimo · #8 01-10-2006, 05:36 PM

As an aside, the listing violates one of eBay's listing policies. His description states, "3% (three) transaction fee if paid via Paypal is in effect for this auction."

Such sorts of surcharges are not permitted by eBay - see

here.

Mitch H · #9 01-10-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eskimo

Such sorts of surcharges are not permitted by eBay

Yeah, can't make the paypal buyers pay the paypal fees, they might decide to use an honest means of payment instead.

I'm somewhat pissed that the attorney generals and the banking regulators all seemed to back off when eBay bought Paycrooks. And Paycrooks just keeps acting like it is immune to all federal and state banking and commerce laws, because in effect, it is.

dieseldiehard · #10 01-10-2006, 06:57 PM

Pay Pal might be operating in a grey area but that seems to be changing.
Case in point is that PP is reporting sales over $500 to the state Franchise Tax Boards (tax Police).
I learned this thru a friend whose family had an estate sale after a member passed away. They sold all the furniture thru eBay with all proceeds collected thru Pay Pal. About 6 months later they received a notice from their State to pay the tax on the sales or face criminal prosecution!
It appears that part of a settlement that eBay went thru was to give all sales info for sales above $500 to the appropriate Tax Police.

boneheaddoctor · #11 01-10-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseldiehard

Pay Pal might be operating in a grey area but that seems to be changing.
Case in point is that PP is reporting sales over $500 to the state Franchise Tax Boards (tax Police).
I learned this thru a friend whose family had an estate sale after a member passed away. They sold all the furniture thru eBay with all proceeds collected thru Pay Pal. About 6 months later they received a notice from their State to pay the tax on the sales or face criminal prosecution!
It appears that part of a settlement that eBay went thru was to give all sales info for sales above $500 to the appropriate Tax Police.

good thing to know....

dieseldiehard · #12 01-10-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor

good thing to know....

Accept only Money Orders and your below their radar level.

#13 01-10-2006, 09:12 PM

VERY good to know

Dad's been selling Dellorto carbs on ebay recently for big cash. He has some 48's on there right now...with manifolds!

Pulls down amazing cash.

There are many processes for checking for cracks in heads...I bet if you do some searching you will find some. I was reading my diesel book and they were talking about using chemicals and whatnot with I believe magnetism? and something about how the fine particles would attract to the hairline cracks.

I'll have to re-read it...I think I have the magnetism part wrong

BodhiBenz1987 · #14 01-10-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon314159

There are many processes for checking for cracks in heads...I bet if you do some searching you will find some. I was reading my diesel book and they were talking about using chemicals and whatnot with I believe magnetism? and something about how the fine particles would attract to the hairline cracks.

I'll have to re-read it...I think I have the magnetism part wrong

Your right on magnetism (I recently read this chapter in my diesel engine book, which I have been working through for the past, oh, year). They put a special magnet with two "legs" over an area on the head surface and then spray the area with fine magnetic powder. The powder should travel from one pole to another, but if there is a crack it will disrupt the field and collect the powder.

Also, there are sprays that can be applied to the head that will collect in and illuminate the cracks.

Eskimo · #15 01-10-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch H

Yeah, can't make the paypal buyers pay the paypal fees, they might decide to use an honest means of payment instead.

The seller is not obligated to accept PayPal at all; he's free to specify other methods that don't carry the additional "hit" that PayPal payments do. If one chooses to have the PayPal logo (and the associated credit card logos) displayed on one's auction, then some obligations come with that choice. "No surcharges" is one of those obligations.

If I perceive that there's some benefit to accepting PayPal as a payment, then I have to decide whether that benefit is worth the cost - but I don't try to have the cake and eat it, too.

The notion of not allowing surcharges to be assessed for a particular payment method is not a new one. At one time, surcharges for use of credit cards were prohibited by federal law. That ceased to be the case years ago, but some states still prohibit it by their own (state) laws. Mastercard and Visa also prohibit merchants from assessing surcharges for use of their cards.