Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-07-2006, 02:36 PM
300SDog's Avatar
gimme a low-tech 240D
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: central ky
Posts: 3,602
240D: temporary idling like a racehorse

1979 240D, 179k miles...... Its my parts car, been sitting undriven 6 weeks.

Took it on 70 mile spin yesterday and the idle was high for the first 1/2 of the trip. It idled so high that I had to slip the clutch with my other foot on the brake at red lights to slow it down....... No such high idle situation had ever occurred before it was parked in January.

But then it miraculously calmed down and resumed idling at normal speed for the return trip!

There is no alda, weird vacuum/electric regulating device for fuel/air and no crazy oil separator breathing apparatus on this '79 240D. There's no cruise control and nothing looked sticky with the throttle linkage or idle adjust.

Fuel is ordinary truck stop #2 diesel with about 4 ounces of Diesel Kleen additive used at every fill up. And the vehicle has no maintenance issues re/ filters, valve clearances etc...... What caused this *temporary* high idle situation??
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-07-2006, 03:18 PM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,432
Lube all linkages.

Run away diesel, why does it happen?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=824840#post824840


Have a great day.
__________________
ASE Master Mechanic
https://whunter.carrd.co/

Prototype R&D/testing:
Thermal & Aerodynamic System Engineering (TASE) Senior vehicle instrumentation technician.
Noise Vibration and Harshness (NVH).
Dynamometer.
Heat exchanger durability.
HV-A/C Climate Control.
Vehicle build.
Fleet Durability
Technical Quality Auditor.
Automotive Technical Writer

1985 300SD
1983 300D
2003 Volvo V70

https://www.boldegoist.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-07-2006, 03:51 PM
300SDog's Avatar
gimme a low-tech 240D
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: central ky
Posts: 3,602
Thanks but it was not a runaway diesel, idling did not go through the roof. Instead it was stabilizing 200-300 rpm's high. Over the first 35 miles it called for some interesting shifting techniques with the 4-spd, thats for sure. And now the problem doesnt exist at all. Am wondering if fuel separation is possible where more flamable stuff drifted to bottom of the tank over 6 weeks of standing still.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-07-2006, 04:13 PM
bgkast's Avatar
Rollin' on 16s
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Vancouver WA
Posts: 6,528
Maybe you should double-check all of the linkages and the attachment of the idle adjustment cable. Since the problem went away and hasn't come back my first thought would be that something in the throttle linkage was hung up. You have been around the 240 longer than I have though. Just my .02.
__________________
1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-07-2006, 05:53 PM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,432
Best guess:

Linkage corroded + minor oil leak down through valve stem seals + a micro diesel injector leak = soaking the cylinders for months = elevated idle once started.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-07-2006, 08:32 PM
300SDog's Avatar
gimme a low-tech 240D
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: central ky
Posts: 3,602
Yeah I know what you mean about precomb chambers getting soaked and then the engine taking off into orbit. Have seen this happen from stone cold start with idle adjust turned up - where the engine suddenly takes off if unattended.

Weirdness is the high idle situation lasted so long and then dissapeared...... twig or stick caught under the hood? Heck it could be anything.
__________________
'80 300SD/ w116
'79 240D 4-spd
'71 750cc Guzzi

previously owned:

'83 240D 4-spd
'77 280SEL 4-spd
'74 280/8
'72 250/8
'65 220Sb 4-spd
'63 220Sb 4-spd
'63 190c 4-spd
'61 220Sb 4-spd
'60 190b 4-spd
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-07-2006, 08:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posts: 6,510
Just the hidden power of the 240d trying to emerge???Has someone found it at long last? Next time if it does this just get out and see if you can shut the linkage down farther by pushing on the injector pump arm. . If so just lube up the linkage and check it. The problem went away now so I would not lubricate and check the linkage until after It happened the next time if it does .Providing it is not a safety issue of course. Probably caused by sitting around too long plus linkage not lubricated for a dogs age..That way you know what the cause was for certain. Having some difficulty with the concept of working to keep a 240d down while sitting at a stop light. It sounds like an episode right out of the twilight zone. When you find the mysterious source of this extra power send some of it to me for one of my 240ds.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page