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Old 09-01-2006, 12:10 AM
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Got Glow plugs ?

Hey, just a fast-yet-probably-stupid question here...Been treating my SD like a gasser on startup and it fires like my 71 Olds...chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga FIRE... Just like that...maybe off by one chuga but it's like this even in the winter and my glow plug lamp has never, ever been ON. I assume that I am sans glow plugs as the stripper fuse is good and all else seems right...yet I have not yet seen the need to pull the glow plugs to even check as she starts fine for me....my question is ....am I doing Duh-Benz any harm by just blowing off the glow plug issue? Seems to me she starts just fine...and I don't even think the plugs are working. I am thinking she's got great compression so who needs the glow plugs?!?...any thoughts b4 another winter hits?

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Old 09-01-2006, 07:54 AM
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If you had no glow plugs, it likely wouldn't start at all. You probably have one or two bad plugs. You certainly ought to get it straightened out before winter. It is simple to test them with an ohm meter. Good plugs read 0.6 ohms cold.

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Old 09-01-2006, 08:08 AM
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Hey, just a fast-yet-probably-stupid question here...Been treating my SD like a gasser on startup and it fires like my 71 Olds...chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga FIRE... Just like that...maybe off by one chuga but it's like this even in the winter and my glow plug lamp has never, ever been ON. I assume that I am sans glow plugs as the stripper fuse is good and all else seems right...yet I have not yet seen the need to pull the glow plugs to even check as she starts fine for me....my question is ....am I doing Duh-Benz any harm by just blowing off the glow plug issue? Seems to me she starts just fine...and I don't even think the plugs are working. I am thinking she's got great compression so who needs the glow plugs?!?...any thoughts b4 another winter hits?
When you first turn the key "ON", can you hear a click a few seconds later?? You could just have a burnt out bulb in the IC. Sounds like you have at least one bad glow plug, or your glow plug relay is gone...
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Old 09-01-2006, 08:13 AM
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Use this pictorial to troubleshoot your glow plug system.

http://dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm

Its not a hard job to do at all.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:48 AM
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Elkton,

Its possible the GP work even if the GP light doesn't work. U might not be waiting long enough for the GP to heat. U are wearing out the starter by doing the Chuga, chuga.

Do the "cabin light test". U can it find in a search.

Try this also: Wait abouit 20 seconds with the key in the run position before U engage the starter. Notice if the engine starts easier after waiting.

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Old 09-02-2006, 11:57 PM
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Thanks to all you guys...I will take your ideas under the dash/hood tomorrow. Would have done so earlier but, being a diesel novice...well...I got a lot to learn... and since it starts without too much fuss??...don't fix it if it aint broke was what I was thinking. Hmm...could be wrong again. Thanks!!
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:05 AM
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We've had a lot of really warm days this summer, enough 100+ days to mask the fact that three of the five new Bosch gp's my brother had installed the previous winter had burned out. There's been a nice long string of cold fronts the past two weeks and when that first 60 degree morning hit, I had to crank for a good twenty seconds, as opposed to barely a flick of the starter. Three three-month-old gps from the wrecked '85 later and she fires right up no problem.
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:08 AM
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......don't fix it if it ain't broke was what I was thinking.

While you are echoing PEH's motto above, he is very correct. You are certainly putting much more stress on your starter. And glow plugs are DEFINITELY easier to replace than a starter.....
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:15 AM
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I'm hearing you...and I'm not pushing against the tide here but out of curiosity...it takes me all of 5 seconds to start duhbenz with no glow plug lamp...and it's not the bulb or the stripper fuse gone bad. Just turn the key straight to chuga...wait 8-10 chuga's and off she goes no matter the temps even down to 45^F. 4 Chugas or less when hot. Is this good compression, good luck or what?

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