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Hit Man X 01-03-2007 04:13 PM

2-3 shift is too firm now?
 
My SDL is running again, and now it's shifting pretty damn hard at low throttle input for the 2-3 shift... as if it had a vac leak. All the lines and rubber is new... Fluid and filter are new within 10k miles. 1-2 and 3-4 are okay.

Where the hell should I start to look? :confused:

rrgrassi 01-03-2007 04:23 PM

How long did it sit?

I do not think it's vacuum if the other shifts are fine. May have something sticking in the tranny since it sat up.

But, you never know. To rule out vacuum, get out the miti vac and test the system.

Hit Man X 01-03-2007 06:36 PM

Hell, 10-12 weeks? I too started to think it could be a sticking accumulator.

Where are the test procedures?

werminghausen 01-03-2007 07:14 PM

I went through this exercise with Brian two months ago. I can email you the data he was looking for if you want. It was vac at various rpms during driving. you hook up the mityvac with a t after the amplifier, drive and check vac.

Biodiesel300TD 01-03-2007 07:26 PM

Could try I trans fluid and filter change. I don't know that it would do much but it wouldn't hurt anything.

Brian Carlton 01-03-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hit Man X (Post 1376198)
Where the hell should I start to look? :confused:

Get a vacuum gauge and T it into the transmission modulator output line (from the vacuum amplifier). Run the gauge into the cabin and drive the vehicle. Note the vacuum at minimal pedal, moderate pedal, and at maximum power.

Report back with results.

Hit Man X 01-03-2007 09:08 PM

Will a Mityvac work?

Brian Carlton 01-03-2007 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hit Man X (Post 1376463)
Will a Mityvac work?

...yep...;)

Hit Man X 01-03-2007 09:12 PM

Okay cool. Aside from this banging into 3rd and the clutch fan falling off, the car is running well. :D

Hit Man X 01-03-2007 09:33 PM

Had an idea -

Would a crossed vac line cause my problem? I did have the IP out. :confused: I can't seem to find a vac diagram

Brian Carlton 01-03-2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hit Man X (Post 1376520)
Had an idea -

Would a crossed vac line cause my problem? I did have the IP out. :confused: I can't seem to find a vac diagram

The VCV has one of the two top lines as supply vacuum and the second of the two as the output vacuum to the amplifier.

If you reversed them, I'm sure the system won't be liking it much.........:eek:

Hit Man X 01-03-2007 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1376527)
The VCV has one of the two top lines as supply vacuum and the second of the two as the output vacuum to the amplifier.

If you reversed them, I'm sure the system won't be liking it much.........:eek:



The check valve is on the side toward the radiator and the "Y" near the firewall, if that's the VCV. :confused:




Here is the diagram I found - http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/27433d1120505722-603-vac-diagram-603vac.jpg

Brian Carlton 01-03-2007 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hit Man X (Post 1376544)
The check valve is on the side toward the radiator and the "Y" near the firewall, if that's the VCV. :confused:




Here is the diagram I found - http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27433&d=1120505722


That's the correct diagram. It appears that you've plumbed it properly. That is the VCV that your are referring to.

BTW, you can eliminate everthing on the passenger side of the engine, if you wish.

Hit Man X 01-03-2007 09:57 PM

I'll check it out tomorrow. I'm tired of working in the dark

Hit Man X 01-05-2007 03:50 AM

Okay updates -

Vac system is all correct in the proper spots. Going to pick up vac gauge tomorrow early afternoon (or whenever I decide to wake up) for testing.

Now I did pull on the TV cable to reattach it to the ball+socket and got me to wondering if I made it go too far down to the pressure valve in the valve body. But it still would not explain why the 1-2 shift is fine and the 2-3 will bang even with no throttle input nor with any increased TV pressure.

Are those small green deals check valves? Also, is there a way to test that solenoid next to the vac amplifier?


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