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Are you supposed to 'hear' blow-by? When I took the oil filler cap off today, there was more smoke coming out there than at the exhaust and I heard a sound like a defective exhaust pipe, not very loud, though, but definately audible. How bad is that? Should I start looking for a new engine?
In addition: no start below 30, won't stay running after coldstart, once warmed up idle speed jumps up and down between 700 and 900 rpm but runs fine then.
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The audible part is not a big deal. Pistons moving up and down, compression leaking into what is normally a closed volume, lots of air being displaced, you should hear a low frequency tied to engine speed. The rest of your questions demand more diagnosis. Many things contribute to poor starting, and nearly all of these cars with miles on them have blowby, yet they start and run fine. Do a search on poor cold starts and get a pot of coffee. You will find many, many posts to read. Most focus on glow plugs, starter performance, battery condition, and oil viscosity. An electric heater is an option, either the one MB supplies that fits into the water jacket on the block, or the ones that are in-line with one of the hoses. Some use a magnetically attached oil pan heater.
Good luck, Jim
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Own: 1986 Euro 190E 2.3-16 (291,000 miles), 1998 E300D TurboDiesel, 231,000 miles -purchased with 45,000, 1988 300E 5-speed 252,000 miles, 1983 240D 4-speed, purchased w/136,000, now with 222,000 miles. 2009 ML320CDI Bluetec, 89,000 miles Owned: 1971 220D (250,000 miles plus, sold to father-in-law), 1975 240D (245,000 miles - died of body rot), 1991 350SD (176,560 miles, weakest Benz I have owned), 1999 C230 Sport (45,400 miles), 1982 240D (321,000 miles, put to sleep) |
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Couldn't the sound like a defective exhaust pipe be a holed piston? I'd do a compression check if I were you. More smoke out the oil fill than the exhaust is not normal.
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Thanks, Jim, I was just surprised because I never heard that sound before. With the other issues I've been playing around for a while already. Glow plugs are one year old and I recently tested their resistence with good results, battery is strong; I can repetedly glow and crank for quite a while. Starter seems fine, too, oil is Mobil 1 5W40. I have a block heater and it starts fine when it was plugged in, the problem is, I can't plug it in at work and I got stuck there twice already this winter.
At this point I suspect the IP, I will check the start of delivery next and if this doesn't solve it I will probably attempt a valve adjustment, although my mechanic says he did it when he put in the new timing chain 10000 miles ago. But you never know... Any other ideas? I was planning to test the compression also, although I'm quite sure that there isn't much. I'm hoping a valve adjustment will fix that.
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When you do the compression check, do it dry and then "wet" meaning put a little heavy weight oil in there to temporarily seal the rings/cylinder bore interface. If the readings stay the same the problem is not a cylinder bore/ring sealing problem.
When it runs, and the oil fill cap is back on, does the engine sound peculiar or really shake around a lot? If not, I would be very surprised if a piston was shot, but that will show up in the compression test. Sounds like the oil you use should be fine. The speed the engine reaches is a key to starting cold. Too slow and the cold block absorbs all the heat of compression from the air. Lots of starting excercise will weaken a starter, just as lots of glow plug cycles shortens their life. I would check the valves and then the rest of the things you noted, including the injectors. A fine mist lights a lot better than a short, thick stream of Diesel. Timing should have been set when the chain was replaced, but it is worth another check if the valves are ok. Let us know how you make out, and good luck, Jim
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Own: 1986 Euro 190E 2.3-16 (291,000 miles), 1998 E300D TurboDiesel, 231,000 miles -purchased with 45,000, 1988 300E 5-speed 252,000 miles, 1983 240D 4-speed, purchased w/136,000, now with 222,000 miles. 2009 ML320CDI Bluetec, 89,000 miles Owned: 1971 220D (250,000 miles plus, sold to father-in-law), 1975 240D (245,000 miles - died of body rot), 1991 350SD (176,560 miles, weakest Benz I have owned), 1999 C230 Sport (45,400 miles), 1982 240D (321,000 miles, put to sleep) |
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blow-by video
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My blowby looks basically the same, im interested to see what folks say.
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