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What are symptoms of a worn tranny modulator valve?
The tranny has been shifting rougher and rougher over past several months on my 300SD, and lately I hear louder and more frequent clunking from the differential case when I come to a stop.
Generally, the tranny shifts smoothly when it is stressed during harder acceleration, but on slower, more gradual acceleration, the shifts would be rougher (particularly first and last gears, and last gear would even clunk when not stressed). It also appears that having the AC on makes the differential case clunk louder when I come to a stop. I am suspecting that it's more the vacuum gear-shifting mechanism and modulation than a bad flex coupling or something inside the differential case, but I don't really have any experience with these issues to say with any certainty. Do any of these symptoms point to a bad modulator valve or something related to that?
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84 300SD - bought in April '06 with 237,000 mi |
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First and foremost check your fluid level. How long since your last filter change?
Secondly, its time to check out your vacuum system. Maybe you have a leak thats slowly getting worse. Do you have a MityVac?
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I do keep an eye on my vacuum hoses and fittings, but no - I don't have a MityVac. I assume by MityVac everyone means the hand-held vacuum pump?
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84 300SD - bought in April '06 with 237,000 mi |
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The modulator is the least of your concerns at this point. BTW, do you still have all the connections to the black box on the top of the valve cover.........all EGR related? |
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No, I don't see any black box on top of the valve cover - only linkage-related stuff and the rubber breather tube. The previous owner also plugged the EGR valve connections.
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Pick up a Mityvac and we'll sort it out. |
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I surely don't possess the knowledge of many of the forum members but I have experienced similar symptoms. I replaced my transmission vacuum modulator (turned into a big job) and that was not the cure. It was leaky, but not the primary problem. Under the tutelage of several of these forum members, I finally obtained smooth shifting by making adjustments to the vacuum control valve. Used a mighty vac -- great investment --- and now have a smooth shifting transmission. In the process of doing this I think I experienced all the conditions from too much vacuum to too little vacuum. Again, the mighty vac is essential.
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Under the hood, it's the green one running to the firewall.
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I'm following .....
...... this too. thanks, BC.
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Thnks for this Brian, I have the same problem and this step by step troubleshootig guide your creating is going to be very helpful.
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Maybe this can be turned into a step by step diagnosis with pics for the DIY Articles section?
Scott
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