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I sure like that 170H just above the drawing of the engine area. Notice that the 3-pointed star on the nose is without its ring?

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Originally Posted by Adenauer (Post 1627261)

Attached is an image of the G4, this one, owned by the Spanish Royal Family. It was given to the royal family decades ago by an early chancellor and has just undergone a ground-up restoration by DBAG.

The opening credits of the old Hogan's Heroes series comes to mind when I see that vehicle. There's a good write up about the restoration of the Spanish G4 at :http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-1939-Mercedes-Benz-G4-Offroader.htm
And some photos of a few other examples of the G4 including what looks like the one from the Hogan's Heroes series.
http://e-carzone.com/daimler-benz_(mercedes-benz)/g4_(w31)_1934-1939/

I rented and watched "The great escape" the other night. It had a nice collection of prewar cars in it including a thirty eight or so car with very stylish lines on the front end. Cant remember if it was a benz or something else.

Tom W

Further down the page, the 1937 170H sure looks a lot like a Volkswagon Beetle.

:)

Ken300D

Dr. Ferdinand Porsche was responsible for the design of the 170H long before the people's-wagen (VW).

The tires they fitted to that G4 look an awful lot like the Southern States Grip Spurs I had fitted to my old IH Travelall back in the day. More like tractor tires than truck tires!

They may be the same tires. In reading the write-up on the restoration, it seems that the tires were nowhere to be found in Europe and had to be sourced in the US.

They probably got them from Coker tires. I found the exact same tires there that were original equipment for the 51 Cadillac I used to own. They had every conceivable kind of tire you would need for restoring your car, truck or maybe even G4.

Haven't they been around the longest for special interest autos? Seems they've been advertising in Hemmings since the late seventies. They shipped a set of red lines to my brother back in the late eighties anyhow.

Coker is pretty good.

A nice thing is that they offer traditional sizes and tread patterns with modern radial design with modern rubber. A really great compromise.

You cannot imagine how bad bias ply tires are til you drive a car with them and then with modern radials.

Tom W

But not all rims are rated to handle radial ply tires - they add different loads to the wheels and may be unsafe to drive on with radials mounted. I had a GMC motorhome with rims rated for bias tires, but had radials mounted on them. I personally never had a problem, but other GMC owners told of the problems when the welded rims exceeded their design limits when radials were used. I agree the radials ride WAY better though and may be worth the gamble.

John

I have not heard that one lately.

I am sorry but I cannot imagine this being a problem in the real world.

Tom W

I've noticed that the B-P tires rolled smoother and quieter than radials.

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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 1627022)

And it has a trailer hitch!!! Imagine that. Just 60 hp, the trailer would have to be a pretty small one.

This one has one of those rare chrome horse shoes on the grille that you see from time to time on the Mercedes. For good luck? I wonder what they mean and who sells them.
I even saw a picture of one on a WWII german Luftwaffe truck once...

A beautiful example of maybe the most basic W123 diesels ever sold.
What a car for a W123 diesel diehard to own this one is.:)

This one is just old enough to easily escape the procrustean bed of traps for the unwary trying to bring in a gray market car. 25 years old, you are home free, pretty much - no EPA/DOT problems. Ship it, clear customs, and drive.
Wunderbar!!!!

A fun site to browse, they have the best Mercedes of any dealer I ever saw.

http://www.mirbach.de/main.asp?main=auto_detail&ID=1498&subnav=1

They have some amazing stock. Just imagine Hitler cruising the bombed out rubble of Berlin in one of these in 1945. Only 88 of them built, from the last years of the Nazi empire, in 1943. A real war time Mercedes car, some of these were armoured and had bullet proof tires, glass and bodies.

What a sinister looking thing. Only top Nazis rode in them. Maybe one or two of them were in the Reichschancellery garage when Berlin fell in May 1945. If so, they were surely sent to Russia as war booty.

This survivor must have gone to a non neutral, non belligerent country like Portugal, Spain, Sweden or Switzerland to have survived like this. I wonder which country it was

http://www.mirbach.de/main.asp?main=auto_detail&ID=2315&nav=0&subnav=1&sortierung=firstclass

Looking at the Mercedes cars for sale on his website and reading the poetic descriptions in English is like going to a museum.

The Germans really appreciate and love fine cars

After the war, Spain had many Mercedes models floating around, even thought there was a long waiting list and a 100% tarrif. Many a 300 Adunauer or ponton were to be seen on city streets during the 1950's in Spain.

Most went to the Spanish govt. for use as official vehicles. Some Repuclican widows of the Spanish civil war were provided with a Mercedes and a live-in driver for life by General Franco. King Juan Carlos rode in a 300SEL 3.5 during the early '70s.

Civilians had to be content with bicycles or scooters, thanks to Franco.

Many Germans during the '50s were not amused when the factory let U.S. Forces in Germany buy cars with no waiting period, while they had to wait up to two years to buy a new car.

Germans who had paid for a KDF wagen(VW bug) by buying stamps to put in the books during the war were also not happy when VW refused to provide a new car upon presentation. Of course, VW was under the control of the Allied forces at the time, and when offered VW, Henry Ford said it wasn't worth a damn.