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Old 09-23-2007, 09:24 AM
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Look!! 1981 W123 Eurodiesel, manual 200D, 60 hp the basic model

And it has a trailer hitch!!! Imagine that. Just 60 hp, the trailer would have to be a pretty small one.

This one has one of those rare chrome horse shoes on the grille that you see from time to time on the Mercedes. For good luck? I wonder what they mean and who sells them.
I even saw a picture of one on a WWII german Luftwaffe truck once...

A beautiful example of maybe the most basic W123 diesels ever sold.
What a car for a W123 diesel diehard to own this one is.

This one is just old enough to easily escape the procrustean bed of traps for the unwary trying to bring in a gray market car. 25 years old, you are home free, pretty much - no EPA/DOT problems. Ship it, clear customs, and drive.
Wunderbar!!!!

A fun site to browse, they have the best Mercedes of any dealer I ever saw.

http://www.mirbach.de/main.asp?main=auto_detail&ID=1498&subnav=1



They have some amazing stock. Just imagine Hitler cruising the bombed out rubble of Berlin in one of these in 1945. Only 88 of them built, from the last years of the Nazi empire, in 1943. A real war time Mercedes car, some of these were armoured and had bullet proof tires, glass and bodies.

What a sinister looking thing. Only top Nazis rode in them. Maybe one or two of them were in the Reichschancellery garage when Berlin fell in May 1945. If so, they were surely sent to Russia as war booty.

This survivor must have gone to a non neutral, non belligerent country like Portugal, Spain, Sweden or Switzerland to have survived like this. I wonder which country it was

http://www.mirbach.de/main.asp?main=auto_detail&ID=2315&nav=0&subnav=1&sortierung=firstclass

Looking at the Mercedes cars for sale on his website and reading the poetic descriptions in English is like going to a museum.

The Germans really appreciate and love fine cars

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Old 09-23-2007, 09:32 AM
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These guys have awsome cars. My favorite was the W123 with heated headlights.

Speaking of, anyone know where I can get some rubber OEM mats?
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:41 AM
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That Limo is magnificent. Wonderful lines and wonderful interior fittings.

The 200d looks very nice too.

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Old 09-23-2007, 04:40 PM
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If you ever find a picture of the W150 Innenlenker (sp?) only two of those 'close-coupled' sedans were built on the 150 chassis. I am not certain but I believe I heard that neither exist. Attached is an image of the G4, this one, owned by the Spanish Royal Family. It was given to the royal family decades ago by an early chancellor and has just undergone a ground-up restoration by DBAG. If you can't have one of those or a W196 monoposto, I'd settle for a '61 to '65 W112 300SE, preferably LWB. One day.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:30 PM
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Sounds like the prices are up there for the nice old diesel 123s as they are here in the US.
12K Euros for that one and they don't list the kilometers on it.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:10 PM
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Check out this

Benz (not a Mercedes Benz.. but a BENZ!)


http://www.mirbach.de/main.asp?main=auto_detail&ID=2902&subnav=1


or a

1953 W186 300 D Cabriolet!

http://www.mirbach.de/main.asp?main=auto_detail&ID=2890&subnav=1




oohhh man they have 2 gullwings up for sale too!!!!... must... sell.. soul
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:21 PM
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cool cars, don.

If the trend continues, folks will be buying up our old rustfree southern 123s and shipping them over to europe!

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Old 09-23-2007, 06:49 PM
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oohhh man they have 2 gullwings up for sale too!!!!... must... sell.. soul
I'm a broker for that type of an arrangement, let me see what I can do for you.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:39 PM
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Many of the WW2 era german big shot cars were built by Horsch a company that built big cars before the war but as far as i know did not survive the war. My $.02 Don
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:46 PM
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I believe Horsch was absorbed with other makes to form Auto Union about the time the Auto Union land speed cars were giving Mercedes Silver Arrows a good run in the early thirties.

There was a guy who had several old DkW cars in the back of a nearby shop. That's what he mentioned a few years ago anyhow.
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:53 PM
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cool cars, don.

If the trend continues, folks will be buying up our old rustfree southern 123s and shipping them over to europe!

Tom W
they already do that with mint and even parts air cooled VW's....
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That is correct, the four car companies Audi, DKW, Horsch, and Wanderer were merged to form Auto Union. After the war, they found themselves with no factories, as all were behind the Iron Curtain in East Germany. At that point another factory of some sort in Ingolstadt was pressed into service and the post war DKW's were produced. Toward end of the larger 3-cyl, 2-cycle engined car production, some were badged Auto Union instead of DKW. At some point in the 60's, production of 4-cycle engined cars started and they were badged Audi. As far as I know no Horsch or Wanderer cars were ever produced after the war. There is an interesting story on the Horsch and Audi names if anyone wishes further info.

By the way, oily gasoline as used in the DKW is not far from Diesel as far as volatility is concerned.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:05 PM
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As I recall, a couple of those cars said "DKW" and a couple of them had the same corporate logo as found on today's Audi; the four, interconnecting circles.

At least ten, maybe fifteen years ago, I had a copy of the large, black reference book "Seventy Five Years of Mercedes Benz..." or something to that effect. It was lost in a move. In any case, I seem to recall somewhere in the book discussing the '30's, that Mercedes had a very unusual, very low-production car that had caught my attention. It's coming back to me as I am writing this! 170 something. 170C maybe? A roadster. Had an almost comical, Dick Tracy look about it. I think it was open-wheeled with simple bicycle sort of fenders. I believe it had a third, movable driving light in the center of where the grille would have been. It was either rear or center engined. Now it's going to bug me until I can find a picture of that car. Geeze, I had completely forgotten about the existence of that car until just a few moments ago.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:21 PM
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Ah, it's the 150H.

http://www.automanie.net/SPIP/articleVoit.php3?id_article=1398&&id_secteur=4
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:31 PM
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That 170 cab is a handsome car,

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