The oil itself never wears out. In theory if you could clean it, and replace the additives you could run it forver. The base stock doesn't break down. So the science is correct. However you have to filter it, very, very well, and replace the additives. If you don't do this engine failure will happen at some point.

The website is also very old, and poorly done. This is a low budget fly by night company. When your engine blows good luck trying to sue them for anything, its probably one guy working out of his garage.

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Someone sent us this:

Along with link to your uneducated ignorant rambling about SynLube a product which NONE of you with those negative comments have EVER used and NEVER even seen !

If you would take care to actually read the Website, you just might learn something !@

Apparently none of you have noticed that we have over 600 Mercedes-Benz Diesel owner as loyal customers and about 1,400 more in Europe in Countries like Norway, Russia, Czech Republic, and Italy.

THere even are few owners SHOWN with their vehicles if you look up MB under the "Syn Uses" section.

AS for the web it has benn both created and maintained by Microsoft Front Page Team - so if you do not like it complain to Mr. Gates.

Here is the "form" that was sent to us, of course who ever originated does not even have nerver to reveal his identity....

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Comments:

Okay, I've stayed out of this so far, because it has too much to do with something I've done for a living that always turns out to be a touchy subject for a lot of people, but now I can't resist...

Some oil is better than other oils, this is true. Typically, synthetics are better capable of resisting viscosity changes than plain ol' dino. Now for the part that most people rarely accept, or bother to learn for themselves... I can't think of any decent synthetic engine oil on the market that can't last for 50,000 miles. The trick is that they need to be well filtered in order to do so, no matter what engine they are in, and the engine must be kept in proper operating condition.

There's no oil in the world that will magically keep built-up solids from damaging a motor to my knowledge. Nor is there one that will counteract fuel dilution. I don't think the SAE is aware of any, either. That sort of thing requires filtration, among other things, not snake oil. I've read SAE papers dating from as far back as the late 70's that proves this.

I'm not intending to be confrontational, but I am originally from Missouri. Show me the proof. Let's see independent lab results, not inflammatory comments on a forum that only come across as immature.

Here is your chance to prove the oil is the real deal. I'm open minded, and I'm sure a few other folks here are as well. What can you give us?

P.S. I won't hide behind the Internet for anonymity. I'm a real person, and I'm asking for real proof. Provide it, and you'll do your business a big favour.

-Keith C. Adams

I just go by UOAs and they tell me otherwise, a well designed mineral based HDEO will give the run for money to any synth out there in terms of performance, I am sure in an ideal situation of no soot and no fuel dilution the synth will win in the long run, but that not being the case, both HDEO and synth manage to do quite well and both have to be replaced at a given interval, synth might let you stretch a bit but not by much, in that case, their relatively higher cost is totally negated, where synth will outperform all mineral is extreme conditions, now we don't tend to get that in our daily drives unless we live in Antarctic or Siachen glacier.

Good point. Forgot I was on a diesel forum. My MB has a crankcase full of Delo 400 right now. Cheap and effective, fro my research. I haven't had a chance to test out the synthetic options for it for myself. I will keep running Delo once I get good filtration installed, and see what it can really do in the ol' Merc. Then I'll pit it against some synthetic and look for the differences. I have no problem using my own vehicles as guinea pigs. Whichever gets the lowest sustained particle counts averaged over the longest period is the winner in my book. It should be interesting and informative.

Once I have some baselines established, I'd even be open-minded enough to try the mystery oil that website is touting. Of course, I'd share my findings with you fine folks. That's really the only way to tell if it's any good, right? Do you hear that Mr. Syn-Lube? I said I'd be willing to try it. How's that for open-minded?

(Yeah, I'm a little irritated by the post they made. Attacking members here is very un-cool. Not a good way to introduce yourself to potential customers. Dare I say that it's bad business practise?)

I had a 240D which I sold had 280,000+ miles on Delo400, last I checked, its still running, my current 300TD runs on it, so does my turbo OM616 as well as the HINO and few gensets, also my Honda RC45, all run fine on Delo400, for value, price/performance and overall protection you can't go wrong with either Delo400 nor Delvac Super, both give out phenomenal UOA numbers in myriads of engines, all different kinds, they also give out excellent UOA results in high revving high performance Japanese bikes as well.

I'll keep this in mind for my gasser as well. Right now it has a high-mileage fill of 0w-30 Castrol synthetic which outperformed every other gasser oil I tried. It's been in there for a while, but if it starts to disappoint me, I should give the delo a try in it. Something about the Saturn 1.9 litre engine just eats most oils alive due to shear, and the Delo might combat that as well as the German Kool-aid it has in it now for a few less coins.

I really need to drive more. So many oils to try, so few hours in the day to drive countless miles.

Don't worry about shear and Delo, it survives high 17000 rpm motorcycles with integrated gearboxes handsomely, it would survive with ease in your Saturn.

Smells like a spammer.

Just as amature as the website.:rolleyes:

You should check for duplicate ISP numbers on registered users. I suspect "SynLube" is somebody else in disguise.....

Yeah most likely. But its not my forum, not my problem.

See if Brian will do it.

i can see whaere there coming from, but i think its stupid.
Even if the oil does last that long, its going to get all ashed and sooted up.Thats the main reason why u change you oil anyway.

My last job was a lubrication chemist. I am no expert but did learn a lot about motor oils. Unless one is driving under severe conditions , such as a desert or north pole, synthetic will be a waste of money. The oil molecule may not break down, but the additives that make the engine last for thousands of miles are depleted after a while, plus the buildup of contaminants. By the way, the W as in 10W-40 means winter viscosity, not weight.

Fully agreed, thats why I use HDEO Delo 400 or Delvac Super, they represent the best value to me price and performance wise and I can afford to change them at 5000 miles interval as well for all my vehicles.