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Old 12-02-2007, 08:20 PM
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617 glow plug change and fifth cylinder.....

Hi all.....

Thanks to the help of all the great info on this forum, I set out to swap out all of the glow plugs on my 84 300SD. They are all changed out to the new Bosch plugs except for the last one -- the fifth cylinder, the one closest to the firewall. This one is a huge PITA and I really don't see how any of you got it out or back in. I did a search for "5th cylinder glow plug fun" and such with no luck.

Do any of y'all have any tips for that last and final glow plug? Right now I'm thinking that the only way is to remove the oil filter and coolant hose connection.

BTW -- I have removed/loosened all of the injection lines to move them out of the way a little. That helped with the other four but I'm stumped with the fifth one.

Thanks in advance,
.....Dan
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:32 PM
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it's really not that hard. I do it in 5 minutes with the injector lines on. take an extension and #8 with a wobble and take off the power going to it. hold the wire so it won't break inside the plug because of turning it. then take a gear wrench #12 and put it on the plug. curse some (if you have the lines still on) scrape the back of your hand and take it of. you can extend your wrench with another wrench if it' s seized.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:37 PM
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I do it with a couple of open-end wrenches and the fuel lines in place, it's not that hard.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:05 PM
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open end works good for a well maintained machine, with glow plugs that have some aluminium grease on them
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:18 PM
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Can you elaborate on what your problem is? I have not found the 5th plug to be the hardest. I typically use gearwrenches for them but an open end/box end should work fine.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:27 PM
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Sears is pushing some ratcheting wrenches with hinged ends this holiday season.

Looks like they would be ideal for this job.

I think I will tell Santa what a good boy I've been. Maybe he will bring me a set.



Oh, wait, I forgot!!! I'm Santa.....
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:42 AM
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I just changed mine recently, while doing the turbo and valve stems, injectors etc. I had my injector lines off. I don't recall the heater supply hose coming out of the block blocking the GP. "IF" I am correct, then maybe someone stuck the wrong hose on there?
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:57 AM
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It does block the glow plug when its in position, but you can pull it out of the way enough to work on the glow plug pretty easily.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:27 AM
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A 12mm ratchet wrench is a huge benefit when doing glowplugs.

Remember, do not bend the injection lines.
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Old 12-03-2007, 04:52 AM
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When I did the SD GP's:

I did not remove any fuel lines.

I did use gear wrenches.

I did move the heater hose out of the way.

I did remove a clip and loosen the throttle linkage from the firewall, moving it out of the way.

I did cramp up.

I did lose a gear wrench.

I did buy another gear wrench.

It shook it self out a few days later, found it on the garage floor, I now have two 8mm's.

Getting the new GP in, patience.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:17 AM
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A 12mm ratchet wrench is a huge benefit when doing glowplugs.

Remember, do not bend the injection lines.

It sure is, I used one and it speeds up the process enormously!
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:57 PM
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Guess I'm the only one that pulls the IP lines, my hands simply are unable to fit easily in that area. It takes me all of five minutes to save VAST amounts of aggravation and blood.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:39 PM
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17 mm open end wrench will take off the injection lines, take them off and the world will seem to be a better place.
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a little tip I picked up on this site... put the nuts on the glow plugs first, then put the glow plugs in the head. now clip the end of the loop connector on the wire for the plug and press the wire in, and tighten up the nuts!
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:13 PM
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a little tip I picked up on this site... put the nuts on the glow plugs first, then put the glow plugs in the head. now clip the end of the loop connector on the wire for the plug and press the wire in, and tighten up the nuts!
How's that work out for you with eyelet connectors???
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