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Old 12-12-2007, 02:01 PM
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Hard starting

I am having a problem starting my 83 sd. I noticed last week it was getting more difficult because of the cold. I have started using the block heater. Some mornings it has been down to 25F. The glow plug light is on. With the heater on for 2-3 hrs it starts easily. I checked the glow plugs for resistance and they all looked fine. They are Bosch and about a year old. Today it is warmer 32-34F and I was able to start w/o the heater but with some difficulty. I just went out at lunch time ( now 43F) and had a hard time to start it. The glow plug light is out now. I stopped and checked. Now all the glow plugs are showing high resistance. I checked the glow plug fuse and it is OK. It seems odd that all the glow plugs would fail at once. I am going to remove them and replace them tonight. I will also test them once they are out. Should I check anything else? Maybe they were marginal last week and they just finally died.
I am also due to do a valve adjustment. It has been 15-18K. I am sure this would help starting as well.

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Old 12-12-2007, 02:09 PM
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I highly doubt that they all went bad. was the engine at all warm or hot. Hot glow plugs will show alot of resistance. if you had them glowing for awhile then checked them then they would all show high levels of resistance. Does the car have any problems trying to crank over like a slow starter. using synthetic oil can help alot in colder environments.
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:16 PM
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It's a little odd but not impossible that all five plugs would fail at once. I could see it happening when the weather turns cold and five plugs that have been slowly going bad suddenly get worked harder and give up as a result. Valve adjustment is a good idea and helped my cold starting.

One other thing to look at is your engine oil. I'm running 5W40 in my 300 and 15W40 in my 240, and there is a noticable difference in cranking speed on cold mornings. Couple that with the difference in glow plug styles (loop vs pencil), and I get a 300 that starts on the first (ok first or second) try with a slightly longer than normal glow at 20 deg F, and a 240 that takes a 2-minute glow followed by a couple long cranking events to get going.

Before anybody says it, yes I know that 15W40 is only reccommended down to 23 degrees. I didn't think about that when it was in the 40's and I was doing my last set of oil changes.
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:00 PM
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If the GP system is good, adjust the valves. If you used ether (starting fluid), that can cause the GP tips to burn off.

Also, do not run WVO/SVO at initial start up, if you are going the VO route.
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:21 PM
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Paul,

Im around tonight if you need the wrenches.

I forget where you left it last time, but the rack dampener screwed in too far can cause for harder starting. Do you still have the oscillating idle? Taking my rack bolt out, resetting the rubber seal, and screwing it back in fixed it on Tex.

Have you filled with fresh diesel in the last couple months since its been cold? Maybe you still have summer diesel in there and making it that much harder to start? Probably doesn't make a difference but just a thought.

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Old 12-13-2007, 08:12 AM
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DD,

I checked the GPs again when cold only 3&5 were bad. I was able to find some last night and replaced them so all was well. I did not hook up the block heater this morning and it started easily. However I stopped onthe way to work and when i went to restart the GP light was out again. I checked and it looks like #1 GP is dead. I will replace it tonight. I would like to adjust the valves on Sat. Maybe I can borrow your wrenches.

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