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1984 300D "harmonic vibration" at speed
Hi guys,
So I have noticed this since I bought the car, but haven't thought too much of it (and have been spending time 'debugging' the symptoms, so to speak). In a nutshell, when I am at speed (typically over 90 or 100 km/h (over 55 mph)) I notice a sort of low-pitched harmonic vibration (which I can both hear and feel). I can't really localize where I feel it - I can feel it through my seat (though it's not a strong vibration) and through the armrest. Not through the gearshift at all. The vibration is not constant - it's more of a vibration that gets weak, and then strong over the course of about a second or a little longer. If I shift into N while driving, and take my foot of the go pedal, the vibration is totally unchanged. I imagine that if I were really interested, I could shift into N, take my foot off and then even go so far as to turn off the motor and it would still be the same vibration. If I let off the gas (while still in D, at speed) the vibration becomes a little stronger (but only slightly). Turning the wheel has no effect. I'm a bit stumped. Maybe I just need an alignment? The car doesn't pull perceptibly to either side. Tread wear is even so far as I can tell across all tires. Maybe I have a wheel that's out of balance? All my other tires are correct pressure. My passenger-side rear tire is low on pressure (by about 6lbs) so I wonder if it could be this. I'll be repressurizing it tomorrow and we'll see if that makes any difference. Any other ideas I should be exploring? Last edited by xdjio; 12-23-2007 at 04:03 AM. |
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Crawl under and have a look see at the center bearing, try to rotate it. Sounds like maybe it could be on it's way out. Bearings usually give you some warning. Sound and/or vibration.
Otherwise, you may have a rear wheel bearing issue, harder to localize. Mentioning "seat of the pants" usually refers to something in the rear of the car. Check trailing arm bushings also. Good luck, and keep us posted.
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You will find it at the front end of the rear driveshaft.
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Had symptoms just as you describe. Nice and smooth now. Less than 30$ in parts, about 1Hr worth of your time.
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You did say less than thirty cents right? That seems to be the recurring theme I keep hearing here. However, here in Canada (or at least Metro Van) I've been looking at the local junkyards, and no-one even has mercs!
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I must admit, since buying the car I have not had the wheels balanced - and now, I certainly will have it done. It can't hurt, after all, and might be a cheap (and simple) solution that doesn't require me to get greasy!
I think I want to replace my center bearing just on general principle now though - looking at the service records, I am quite certain I have the original bearing, so it may not be looking too hot these days.
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Tire balance?
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hmm! I hadn't considered the centre bearing. How big is it? I am sure it will be easy to spot. Let's say it is going bad... how difficult should it be for me to replace?
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Its about 4' across and takes a few horrs to replace. Check out and replace, if needed, your flex disks whole you are working on the driveshaft.
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Only if you have a heavy duty driveshaft!!!
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Imagine how heavy that'd be...
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4' sounds about right, becuase by "1984 300D" I really actually meant "my 1984 crude oil tanker"
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Great! Reading some other threads here, it looks like replacement basically consists of pulling apart the driveshaft at the spline, and marking it to reassemble the right way. With it apart, I can pull out the replace the bearing?
Time to check out my FSM... |
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Need a hand?
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