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westkill 01-01-2008 06:49 PM

new nozzles from Sean and wow
 
hi all,
just wanted to let everyone know i got a set of those monark nozzles from Sean here on our forum and wow what a difference. He mailed them right out to me and included 5 new heat shields all for $116.50 with shipping. Installed them this morn and saw the difference right at startup. Smooth as silk and less smoke. No more holding it up over idle till it smoothes out. These were installed in a 83 617 turbo motor with at least 230K on it
I can highly recommend them and Sean was honest and fast. Worth trying them at that price. Mike

burford 01-01-2008 06:53 PM

I had the same very good experience with Sean. A good person to deal with.:P

mobetta 01-01-2008 07:01 PM

No pop test??

westkill 01-01-2008 07:03 PM

nope no pop test. Just winged it and so far so good

C Sean Watts 01-01-2008 07:56 PM

Thank you both.
 
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Originally Posted by westkill (Post 1720175)
nope no pop test. Just winged it and so far so good


But, PLEASE do that pop test when you get the chance. It'll make me sleep easier. ;)

JimmyL 01-01-2008 08:24 PM

Yall just put the nozzles onto your existing injectors?

KarTek 01-01-2008 08:30 PM

Where are you Sean? Geographically... :)

westkill 01-01-2008 08:38 PM

i basically followed diesel giants wright up. i don't have a tester yet but after i make one, i will retest all of them.

C Sean Watts 01-01-2008 10:07 PM

I'm in Raleigh
 
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Originally Posted by KarTek (Post 1720246)
Where are you Sean? Geographically... :)

If I recall, Bahama is in Durham Co. right?

TheDon 01-01-2008 10:09 PM

I need to pop test my injectors..

C Sean Watts 01-01-2008 10:35 PM

Yes,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyL (Post 1720239)
Yall just put the nozzles onto your existing injectors?

Just follow the FSM procedure.

But here is an interesting thing I learned just after I got my 300. In a German print, late 80s edition FSM, the service interval for injectors. *might not be exactly verbatim* "At 100,000Km, remove injectors and test for spray pattern and pressure. Injectors must be replaced if spray ejection pressure is under 130 bar or spray is poor [illustration]. New injectors must be between 135-145 bar [this manual was specific to turbo] Injectors must have equal ejection pressure + or - three bar..."

"If the owner complains of engine noise and/or exhaust smoke after C service, confirm no mechanical component failure...[listed troubleshooting page] ensure correct injection and valve timing. If noise or smoke persists, replace injectors..."

Manual continues procedure same as the English edition.

I have never seen this page in a CD edition manual and the owner would not sell me the book. I tried to get the ISBN but it was a binder edition and was made for dealerships.

d.delano 01-01-2008 11:41 PM

Sean are these nozzles made with the pintle holes just like the originals or are they like the Bosios? Seems I read that the Bosios deviate from the original design somewhat.

rs899 01-02-2008 08:35 AM

I just got a set from Sean (thanks!), but haven't installed them yet.

I don't know if they differ in design from Bosios ( although I have a set of Bosios, but I never looked at them very closely).

These Monarks (GERMANY) are not cross drilled like the original Bosch design.

Somewhat surprisingly (to me) they have a flat area on one side of the tip where the crossdrilling on the Bosch would be. Seems odd to me, but what do I know....

Now if I can only get custody of the wife's car for half a day.....

Rick

KarTek 01-02-2008 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by C Sean Watts (Post 1720306)
If I recall, Bahama is in Durham Co. right?

Yep, nothern... :)

C Sean Watts 01-02-2008 09:13 AM

They do not have pilot holes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d.delano (Post 1720372)
Sean are these nozzles made with the pintle holes just like the originals or are they like the Bosios? Seems I read that the Bosios deviate from the original design somewhat.

They DO have a very slight angle cut, almost microscopic (see above).

This was a design revision, among others, that resulted in better mileage, performance and less emissions. Bosch did away with the SD240 pilot hole some time ago as well.

The purpose, I'm told by a few 'ye olde timers ;)' was to inject a minute amount of fuel to start the burn just before the main injection. This made the diesel cycle quieter. The new designs are an improvement on that idea. The result is a surprisingly smooth and quiet engine.

HERE IS YET ANOTHER tidbit of information listed in the German manuals and catalogs but NOT in the English ones. I have seen in two sources {paraphrase} "The following; SD 261 and 265 are recommended for retrofit where SD 240 is specified."


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