What would you do with this car? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

DieselClack · #1 08-12-2008, 09:10 PM

It's a 1980 300TD and it has a good engine and rust free chassis. The bad: it has one of those servo's that has a bad reputation for always having something go wrong with it! Now, if you had a 1982 parts car with a complete climate control system in it including a monovalve, would you swap out the entire system?

Parts car is a 1982 300D.

My pushbutton Programma climate control unit, the older style is missing from the 1980, but I have a complete system from the 1982 including the Programa. Would this swap make the value go down if I decided to sell it or do you think it would be worth the same or more with the dependable system in it?

Questions, questions.........................................

Decisions, Decisions..........................................

Oracle12345 · #2 08-12-2008, 09:14 PM

If the other one from the other car is working then go ahead and swap it out.

DieselClack · #3 08-12-2008, 09:20 PM

The system from the 1982 is working. It's the car that is the rust bucket not really worth fixing! You can see the ground right through the floor!

Has anyone tried this swap with the older Benz's?

Oracle12345 · #4 08-12-2008, 09:28 PM

if you were smart you would get a 240D or a euro car and put the manual climate control in.

the automatic climate control is another flaw of mercedes.

Dont see why you cant do it, a lot of work though

DieselClack · #5 08-12-2008, 09:43 PM

A manual system would be my first choice, but parts I would have to buy! My 1983 300D's and TD's with the newer automatic system have not given me any problems in years with the exception of a Programma that decided to spit out it's parts onto the passenger side seat at 116*F!

But that was easily fixable in one afternoon and this system is one I already own.

That has a lot of influence too.

The 1980 300TD is also a wagon, which will fetch a decent amount of dough for an Arizona Rust free chassis car even if it needs the new climate control system. The front seats are out and the center console is in the back, so it's mostly taken apart already.

Hatterasguy · #6 08-12-2008, 10:34 PM

Nothing if its not currantly broke...

ImBroke · #7 12-23-2008, 05:26 AM

I would imagine swapping the wiring harness would be a beeotch.

t walgamuth · #8 12-23-2008, 06:17 AM

Its a lot of work. I don't know about the wiring harness issues. I wouldn't be surprised if all that simply unplugs and plugs back in.

And if you are saying you are going to swap the older chrysler climate control for the later version, I would not. It is considered problematic.

The under dash stuff is not all of it. the piping under the hood is different too and the position of the ac compressor may be different as well. Sounds like something you want to consider carefully before embarking on it.

I would fix whatever is wrong with the system in the car you want to drive rather than swap it.

Dieselkraut23 · #9 12-23-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Its a lot of work. I don't know about the wiring harness issues. I wouldn't be surprised if all that simply unplugs and plugs back in.

And if you are saying you are going to swap the older chrysler climate control for the later version, I would not. It is considered problematic.

The under dash stuff is not all of it. the piping under the hood is different too and the position of the ac compressor may be different as well. Sounds like something you want to consider carefully before embarking on it.

I would fix whatever is wrong with the system in the car you want to drive rather than swap it.

Know im getting rid of the chrysler ***** and putting in either the newer style or the euro but right now i have about 3 extra newer push style parts cars to rape so i just need to know where to cut basically.

And going from the chrysler to the newer style under the hood is HELLA easy .....its just what wires to use under the dash that is worring me.

MBNRA · #10 12-23-2008, 08:17 PM

I would think that if you swapped out the ENTIRE system and put in the wiring harness for the 1982, you should be fine! It is a lot of work, but I don't see how swapping out this system for the newer one would devalue the car that much if at all! These older Chrysler sysyems were such junk and I've never had any problems with my 1983 system for 300,000 miles.

The only thing I had to repair was my monovalve and the Auxilliary water pump and cleaning it and putting about a tablespoon of ATF into the motor worked great, accurate temp control throughout the entire heating/cooling range.

You know, come to think of it, swapping out the wiring harness means those pesky older power window switches could be upgraded too! Hmmm.........that could be worth it by itself! Converting over from hard to find parts to ones readily available.

t walgamuth · #11 12-24-2008, 08:12 AM

I would rather have the manual system.

bgkast · #12 12-23-2008, 11:08 AM

There is a thread with pictures about converting to the manual system, and all the wiring and vac lines make my head spin. I would think that converting to the later climate control would be even more difficult.

Edit: here is the manual conversion how to: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion