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Old 12-11-2008, 07:11 PM
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Cruise Control won't go off 1985 300 TDT

Cruise control stops as long as the brake is applied, but resumes when the foot is taken off the brake so the car accelerates back up to the setpoint. I had this problem before and it went away when I found and reconnected a disconnected vacuum line under the hood. But then the cruise control was still surging some, so I resoldered it and found some loose solder joints in the process. Now cruise control is solid but does not want to terminate on brake application. I check vacuum lines again and found nothing obvious. Need a sleuth. Any help much appreciated.

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Old 12-11-2008, 07:18 PM
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Do your brake lights work? If the brake switch has failed, the cruise control won't turn off.

Can you turn off cruise with the control stalk?

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Old 12-11-2008, 07:21 PM
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Hopefully you will run out of fuel soon.
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:24 PM
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Don't let JimmyL see that Rogue 'T' on the end of your car description. You'll be lambasted in the nicest way possible.

All kidding aside, Jeremy is spot on. Check all your brake light bulbs. There is a pretty good write up about it at that place in Cali that rebuilds the amps and actuators. GDL or GDI or something like that. Someone with better short term memory will be able to tell you.

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Old 12-11-2008, 08:20 PM
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The brake lights do work and the control stalk can shut off the cruise control. ????
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On the way home from work tonight, I found that for no apparent reason, that brake use is now terminating crusie control correctly. Weird - but I'll take it if it stays.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:22 PM
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I would definitely check your switch. Im not an electrical engineer but im guessing that the "terminate" function on the CC amp is extremely basic and foolproof to prevent failure. I doubt its the amp
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:43 PM
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where is the switch located?
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:53 PM
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Don't let JimmyL see that Rogue 'T' on the end of your car description. You'll be lambasted in the nicest way possible.
It is nice to see that this issue is top of mind with many folks these days. Ahh, my fellow disciples......
I do try and not kick a person when they are down, unless they seem irritating, which this poster certainly is not! Seems very logical and informed. However, when this issue has been located we might have to get a pic of that wagon hatch......


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All kidding aside, Jeremy is spot on. Check all your brake light bulbs. There is a pretty good write up about it at that place in Cali that rebuilds the amps and actuators. GDL or GDI or something like that. Someone with better short term memory will be able to tell you.

Good Luck!
Certainly does sound like a flaky signal back to the cruise amp that the brakes have been applied. I hope somebody has a link to the write up named above.
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Googled the EGL write up. This should get me what I need. Thanks for the gentle prodding. Here is the link in case anyone else needs it.

http://gdl-online.com/test024.html
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:21 AM
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Googled the EGL write up. This should get me what I need. Thanks for the gentle prodding. Here is the link in case anyone else needs it.

http://gdl-online.com/test024.html
The first sentence says:

"Please note that these ideas and procedures are for someone who has the time, inclination and technical ability "

I guess that leaves me out......I don't think I have the "time".
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:04 AM
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AFAIK, the brake light switch is under the dash and connected to the brake pedal somehow. It should be pretty obvious once you get the driver's under-dash panel off and look. It's possible that the contacts in the switch are burned from years of use and are not always making contact as well as they used to; since you can't see the brake lights while you drive, you would never know.

Knowing Mercedes of that era, I believe it should be possible to remove the switch and take it apart. Careful cleaning of the contacts with very light sandpaper or emery cloth should restore clean operation. At worst you would have to replace the switch (sorry I can't find it listed in FastLane).

The problem is unlikely to be due to flaky brake lights, sockets, or wiring, since they would do the opposite, they would prevent you from engaging cruise control, not disengaging. Similarly, a short to ground of the brake light wiring would blow a fuse so it's not that.

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Much appreciated. Unless I come back whining, consider it whipped.

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