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Old 12-17-2008, 12:08 AM
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What's coldest temp your diesels can start???

Mine is at 10*F with new nozzles and Valve adjustment, Hmm... That reminds me i need to change my GP ,

first crank 2 cylindes will start firing, 5-6 second later 3 cylinders will be firing, about 3 seconds later 4 cylinders is firing, than it runs like crap about 3 second then all 5 cylinders fires up, this is what i am experiencing every time when it drops near single digit numbers...By the way i love it when diesel struggles to start but i hate it if it can't start ...
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:38 AM
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I've started mine at -12F before with NO block heater and it had sat for over 14 hours at that temp. Took about 10ish seconds of cranking after a 25-30 second glow. My engine rocks. Right now its about 12F outside, it fires a cylinder on the first rotation and is running in less than 2 seconds after a 20 second glow. It starts BETTER now than when I got it 70,000 miles ago. I attribute it to 55k on synthetic oil.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:41 AM
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The factory extreme cold start drill :

pump the acellerator twice then hold to floor (someone PLEASE tell me how this helps ?!)

Cycle the glow plugs twice then crank the engine but DO NOT LET OFF THE KEY untill all 5 cylinders are firing and it'll start every time , first time .

When the car was new there was a red cradboard tag with all the extreme cold starting drill info on it..
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:49 AM
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The factory extreme cold start drill :

pump the acellerator twice then hold to floor (someone PLEASE tell me how this helps ?!)
I think that's supposed to help prime the IP?
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:56 AM
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Mine starts normally, it was probably about 15 degrees in my garage, except I forgot to put in the lighter oil weight this time, so it needs a little gas right off the bat to keep turning.
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:16 AM
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The coldest mine start is around 30 degrees. Mainly because I refuse to live anyplace that gets colder than that.......
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:08 AM
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The factory extreme cold start drill :

pump the acellerator twice then hold to floor (someone PLEASE tell me how this helps ?!)

Cycle the glow plugs twice then crank the engine but DO NOT LET OFF THE KEY untill all 5 cylinders are firing and it'll start every time , first time .

When the car was new there was a red cradboard tag with all the extreme cold starting drill info on it..
I've started one of my cars as low as -20F.

This is from my factory owners manual:

Ambient temperature below 0 degree C

Depress accelerator to the floor. Turn key in stering lock clockwise to the stop. Release key only when the engine is firing regularly and back off accelerator slowly.

Do not interrupt the starting process. If the engine is very cold it is possisble that it will fail to start on subsequent attempts.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:46 AM
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Last winter the 300D started at 8 or 9 F just like it was a warm day. The 240 was starting with difficulty down into the high teens and that was the coldest I tried it. It's supposed to get down to 9 tonight, and I'd like to drive the 240 to work tommorow. Lately, it's been having battery/slow drain issues that my multimeter refuses to measure, so I'm off to Wally World to get an extension cord so I can use the block heater.
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:20 AM
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i was in tahoe, and it started right up after two glow cycles, i estimated minus 2 degrees F
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:33 AM
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Dunno, but she started pretty much normally (a couple of stumbles) almost the first rev after 2 glow cycles at 20-something on Sunday...

We've had ice on the streets since Friday, so the 300CD is staying home and I'm driving my Jeep 'til the roads are all clear.

I'm not taking ANY chances with some numb-nutz who doesn't know how to drive in bad weather plowing into me and totaling my Benz!

Unfortunately, between the rarity of snowy weather, and the excess number of California transplants, we have a LOT of people around here who have no clue about how to drive in snowy/icy conditions
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:37 AM
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It's 22 now, my 240D started, but my SD would not with out plugging in. I did have a glow plug out in the SD though...
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:36 AM
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Last time I started my SDL it was 18*F outside, and it started like it was 60

A moment of silence while we wait for the glow plugs...

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Old 12-17-2008, 05:07 AM
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Even jumping the battery for extra charging, my SD refused to start at all @ 35 F a few days ago. Then again, the engine has been showing signs of extreme amounts of blow by, so low compression isn't helping at all!

On the other hand, the parts car that I bought for an engine, I'd never had it cranked up since I bought it until the day the SD didn't want to play, and it cranked up in 5 seconds flat, with a short glow cycle to boot.

(I *really* need to get around to swapping the engines...)
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Old 12-17-2008, 05:14 AM
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last winter the sdl started in zero degree weather with one glow plug out no block heater This year who knows the 18 year old hasnt called so I guess it starts
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Old 12-17-2008, 06:53 AM
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last winter...........Candy started when it was 8 degrees. That temperature is too cold for any Elvis sightings. It doesn't normally get that cold here.....but maybe once ever 3 years. Anyway, Candy never spent a night in the garage and hadn't been started in like a week.

One full glow cycle (wait for the relay to go "glunk"); turn key off, then back on.......20 seconds later, starts on all 5 cylinders like it was 60F out.


Speaking of cold starts, I've "fixed" the rough starting on Coda. I have instructed the "driver" that they need to wait longer in the glow cycle before cranking; waiting until the light goes off is not long enough when she has sat outside or all day (no lunch) at the office. Last night, it was about 29 when I left the office and I didn't wait for the "glunk", but waited past the light going out and she started better.
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