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02-04-2009, 10:41 AM
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ignition key hard to turn 240D
A couple of months ago, I couldn't get the ign key to turn to the start position (spring loaded position). I have since wired up a small push button/relay to the starter solenoid and that is working fine to start the car. This cold morning (about 15F), I had a lot of problems getting the key to turn at all. After about 5 minutes trying, it finally turned and I was able to start the car. What's going on? Do I need a new ign switch or is it the steering lock? Should I try lubricating it? If so, with what? WD-40? Dry graphite powder? Lock-ease?
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02-04-2009, 10:45 AM
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You need to leave the ignition in the on position and get a new tumbler. If you lock the switch again and it doesn't unlock you will have more money and more work ahead of you.
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02-04-2009, 10:45 AM
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These are the warning signs of either the tumbler (most likely) or ignition housing is going south.
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02-04-2009, 10:54 AM
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The problem is with the steering lock, I removed my from my 300sd and it resloved
The lock issues, and I get to use my same key
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02-04-2009, 11:07 AM
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How big a job is it in hours? Any special tools required?
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02-04-2009, 11:36 AM
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Not really pretty straight forward. There are some good threads with pics on the forum.
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02-04-2009, 01:24 PM
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www.dieselgiant.com has a good pictorial. Been there, done that! Don't tempt fate. Replace it now!
John 
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02-04-2009, 01:34 PM
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Agree. Order a new cylinder from the dealer, cut for your VIN number. Take a copy of your title or proof of ownership when you do order. If the key locks up it's a real drag trying to drill out the old cylinder. Alan
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02-04-2009, 02:58 PM
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The problem could be any of the above. What I recommend doing is removing the tumbler, disassembling the steering lock and soaking/cleaning all of it.
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02-04-2009, 03:20 PM
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how much are VIN matched tumblers at the dealer?
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02-04-2009, 04:15 PM
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Why?
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02-04-2009, 04:21 PM
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http://superturbodiesel.com/images/sig.04.10.jpg 1995 E420 Schwarz 1995 E300 Weiss #1987 300D Sturmmachine #1991 300D Nearly Perfect #1994 E320 Cabriolet #1995 E320 Touring #1985 300D Sedan OBK #42
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02-04-2009, 04:47 PM
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The tumbler is a 5 minute job. Remove it, then check to see if it opperates properly when in your hand out of the car, if it sticks that is your problem, if it works fine then your problem is the steering lock which is a bit more involved.
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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver 1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver 1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine
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02-04-2009, 04:47 PM
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It seems to vary between $50 and $100 depending on the dealer and which car you have.
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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver 1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver 1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine
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