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Merkey 11-02-2009 10:17 PM

I just got a 1984 190D... Lotsa questions!
 
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I was trolling on Ebay...
I saw it, watched and waited...
And now its mine!
A 1984 190D. 175k miles.

Here are pics.

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Upside:)
Paid $560. A glovebox hunt turned up a huge stack of docs and receipts stretching back to new. Looks like one family owned it since new. Major money was spent on it, inc rebuilt transmission, and complete suspension, inc shocks and bushings!
We did a rough total of about $7k in receipts.
Oil pressure was maxed against the stop on the way home.
Sunroof works!

Downside:(
Paint is dull and matt. Interior has a few issues like drivers seat has a tear, and pass side pull handle missing. Only one window works!
Foglamp lenses are toast.
Biggest issues...
Engine will not turn off. Took me a frantic post in the Tech section to get it shut off!
Transmission shifts oddly. Looks like there is a linkage missing from throttle?
Ideas, thoughts and comments?

Skippy 11-02-2009 10:22 PM

Congrats on the purchase. You scored.

Engine not turning off and trans shifting are most likely vacuum related. You probably have a leak somewhere in the system. There's a sticky with vacuum diagrams and plenty of threads to search about vacuum troubleshooting.

Windows are electrical and are fused in diagonal pairs, so two of them might just need a fuse changed.

Merkey 11-02-2009 10:35 PM

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I am a Diesel Virgin, so go easy on me!
Managed to snap a couple of pics...

Here is one of the linkage....

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...C04868Crop.jpg

The Yellow outlined one is disconnected at the left side... the ball end connector is missing.
Should there be a link between the two red ball ends?


On the injection pump side, I spotted this missing tube...
What does that part do?
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okyoureabeast 11-02-2009 10:54 PM

Goodness that engine looks weird compared to my w123.

Shutoff and possibly your shifting issues are all vacuum related. I'm guessing since you're visiting from the gasser section you have a mighty vac ;-)

I'm not familiar with the setup of a 190D. It looks great and the headlamps aren't hard to replace.


Oh and replace that hood star. It's missing its pride.

jt20 11-02-2009 11:12 PM

You found a much better deal than I did... and I watched Ebay.

Therefore, I hope your engine suffers some catastrophic failure and your cruise control never works.

Now that we're past that. The missing linkage is from your cruise control actuator and from throttle cable to transmission bowden calbe. Don't sweat it. As others have mentioned, the rest of your problems are from a FUBAR vacuum system. Find a diagram of your Vac system, print it, laminate it (tape works), and trace each section with a marker as you completely revise its integrity and connections.

ps.. you won't find much help on this forum for the w201 and 190d

sasquatchgeoff 11-02-2009 11:37 PM

Congrats! Welcome to the land of 201! You will find a great little machine in what may appear to be a minor mess - not to worry, you will not regret any of the work you do on this car!

Go through all the vac fittings and make sure they are connected and not busted. To determine what needs to be connected consult the 201 FSM vac diagrams. Write your chassis and engine numbers down (your VIN is showing in one of your pics) - you will need these when you are determining which modification/improvement/diagrams to cite. Yes there should be a link between your accelerator and bowden cable linkage - find one at a junkyard.

One owner is a good thing. The 201 was the most popular MB in the history of Daimler-Benz and rightfully so. But as with any old MB, they are money pits, so your junkyard will be a good shopping destination.

Again, congratulations - you are in good company here.

tbomachines 11-02-2009 11:47 PM

What a bargain! Those cosmetic issues are nothing to worry about, all easy to fix (minus the paint if you can live with it). Sounds almost all vacuum related, and yes you should have a connecting throttle rod where you circled. Welcome to the diesel discussion and congrats on a great buy!

Merkey 11-02-2009 11:55 PM

Thanks everyone!
I looked again and that linkage pic is wrongly circled...:rolleyes: but I think you guys got the jist.

GregoryV022 11-02-2009 11:59 PM

i would also check into why its riding so high, or maybe i just used to seeing my 16 valve W201

GregMN 11-03-2009 12:07 AM

There is a missing link between the throttle and the left red circled post. The bowen cable tells the transmission the throttle position via that missing link. I would imagine that your transmission is shifting up through the gears prematurely. Until you replace the link, shift it by hand.

Put it in 2nd and it will start from a stop in 1st.
15mph - shift to 3rd and back to 2nd quickly to shift to 2nd
32mph - shift to 3rd
45 to 55 mph shift to 4th.




That car will last until you are just sick of looking at it, or you hit a deer.

Merkey 11-03-2009 12:29 AM

Yeah, it was shifting thru the gears in about 20mph!
Sluggish is an understatement!
Do I have to buy the whole linkage, or can I just replace the end?

jt20 11-03-2009 08:59 AM

i have been unsuccessful in finding new linkage parts for sale anywhere ,however the dealer can usually get anything you need $$$$.

SasquatchGeoff has used the linkages from the 240d and 300d quite successfully.

pj67coll 11-03-2009 10:10 AM

Cool beans. Isn't this the most economical W201 ever?

- Peter.

Merkey 11-03-2009 11:19 AM

Apart from the fact that its sitting on 14" wheels... Why is it sitting so high?
It has new shocks all around by the look...

Anything you can do to boost the power a little?

Crazy_Nate 11-03-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkey (Post 2330790)
Anything you can do to boost the power a little?

Well, I think the first thought is always get it back up to spec and then you can decide what you want to do.

First things first - fix that throttle linkages (and make sure that they're properly lubricated and adjusted). Fix the vacuum trouble in the engine compartment. Check / change your fuel filters (2x in engine compartment and the tank strainer). If the air filter is dirty, put a new one in. Beyond that, you can have the injectors pop tested and new nozzles put in if needed. I'm not sure about the OM601, but the later turbo OM60x's can get gunked up intakes from the combination of the crankcase breather line and the EGR system. I plan on cleaning mine when I do my injector nozzles. I'll probably also install a oil catch in the breather line when I do so.

Sounds like fun, and wow, nice deal! :)


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