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vwnate1 03-04-2010 12:16 AM

ADSIT Rebuilt Engine ?
 
Has anyone tried one of these ? .

TIA ,

::matthew 03-04-2010 12:46 AM

some folks have had less than good luck with adsit.

here's one of several posts on them:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/233610-read-before-you-ever-buy-anything-adsitco.html

vwnate1 03-04-2010 01:07 AM

WOW !
 
THANK YOU for the heads up .

Their website looks nice , screw them .

I'll go to plan # 2 : overhauling my old OM617.952 engine instead .

Another stupid question : I was pricing engine kits and it seems the pistons come in sets with the liners ~ are OM617 engines " Wet Liners " ? all the ones I've seen headless appear to be pressed in cylinders....

If I yank my head off and find it needs boring , I'll junk the block and buy another , they're cheap @ $ 250.00 fan to clutch including IP and all accessories .

I just didn't want to get stuck in a overhaul job if I could afford it because I can no longer do it and have to trust another Mechanic to touch the nether regions of my baby :eek: .

It needs about $2,000 worth of ancilliary parts too .

mplafleur 03-04-2010 11:46 AM

You don't have to get an "overhaul kit" if it has parts you don't want.

However if you get new standard size pistons and ring, you will need new liners so they will fit the new pistons. You could keep the liners you have if you get oversized pistons and rings, but you will have to take the block to a machine shop to get the piston sleeves bored and honed.

But since you have to take the block in to get the sleeves removed and the new ones pressed in, give him the new pistons and they will bore/hone as needed for the new ones.

vstech 03-04-2010 11:55 AM

if you get new liners and pistons, you will have to go to a machine shop for installation and fitting to the pistons.

whunter 03-05-2010 03:27 AM

Answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnate1 (Post 2418274)
Has anyone tried one of these ? .

TIA ,

I suggest this company...

http://mercedesengines.net/

Toll Free 800.622.6867
Email: metric@mercedesengines.net

http://mercedesengines.net/

vwnate1 03-05-2010 03:52 AM

THANX !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter (Post 2419068)
I suggest this company...

http://mercedesengines.net/

Toll Free 800.622.6867
Email: metric@mercedesengines.net

http://mercedesengines.net/

! $7,850.00 ! GASP

I don't know how to afford this .

vwnate1 03-05-2010 03:55 AM

Um ;
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mplafleur (Post 2418510)
You don't have to get an "overhaul kit" if it has parts you don't want.

However if you get new standard size pistons and ring, you will need new liners so they will fit the new pistons. You could keep the liners you have if you get oversized pistons and rings, but you will have to take the block to a machine shop to get the piston sleeves bored and honed.

But since you have to take the block in to get the sleeves removed and the new ones pressed in, give him the new pistons and they will bore/hone as needed for the new ones.

I know all this , I've been overhauling engines since the 1960's .

That's entirely my point ~ if it needs boring I'd prolly just junk the block . often I find the taper & out of round is acceptable in the cylinders so new pistons is all it needs .

I'm juggling my options here I guess .

The car runs really sweet over 2,000 RPM & doesn't use much oil so I can wait .

t walgamuth 03-05-2010 07:03 AM

Have you run a compression test and leakdown test? If you have chronic rough running you may be down on compression in one cylinder. That could be a valve or something in the bottom end. If it is a turbo motor the head gaskets often need replaced at 250 to 300K miles. At that time there is usually some valve work needed as well.

The bottom end is very durable unless abused by dirty or low oil or coolant. The pistons are often in very good shape and can be reused. I have rebuilt ( had it done by my very competant local machinist) a half dozen mercedes motors and we have always replaced the liners and all but one we reused the pistons because they measured well within the tolerances specified by the FSM.

A compression and leak down test is essential to keep from flying blind. The parts are so expensive and the time required to disassemble and reassemble these motors it gets expensive fast so it pays to do your homework.

vwnate1 03-05-2010 11:48 PM

Thank You
 
I did a compression test and the # 5 cylinder is low , it's also the one that smokes & misses until it warms up and begins to fire .

Even @ hot idle this cylinder is weak .

I'm waffling , thinking it'd be better to find a low mileage takeout and re-seal it then drive happy as I tend my cars *very* carefully so it should last me a long time .

NoCalMer 03-06-2010 01:46 PM

I have not ran across a lot of unethical businesses getting parts over the years for my cars but ADSIT is definitely one of them. I can't believe they are still in business.

Good luck on finding a engine or rebuilding yours.

suginami 03-06-2010 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCalMer (Post 2419944)
I have not ran across a lot of unethical businesses getting parts over the years for my cars but ADSIT is definitely one of them. I can't believe they are still in business.

Good luck on finding a engine or rebuilding yours.

I have never dealt with ADSIT, but I have heard of more bad experiences with them than any other company I have heard of.

I would never do business with them.

Hatterasguy 03-06-2010 03:03 PM

Metric Motors is fantastic! They did a great job on my friends 606 head.


Mercedes engines gas or diesel are EXTREMLY expensive to do internal work on. The diesels are actualy cheap, you should see what an M119 or M120 costs to rebuild...

Charlie20 03-07-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by whunter http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...s/viewpost.gif
I suggest this company...

http://mercedesengines.net/

Toll Free 800.622.6867
Email: metric@mercedesengines.net

http://mercedesengines.net/

! $7,850.00 ! GASP

I don't know how to afford this .

You do not have to buy a complete rebuilt engine. I suggest talking to them about doing just the machine shop work. That is what I did last year, and they did a superb job, were very helpful, and did not charge out of line with other machine shops. If you are in Southern California it is that much easier.

Eric 03-07-2010 08:21 PM

Go to Mercedes directly, they actually don't charge as much as you'd think and you've got the genuine factory parts and warranty. Call the classic center.

vwnate1 03-07-2010 08:46 PM

Thanx Eric !
 
I'll send Tom a note just for grins ~ I buy fiddly stuff from him @ The Classic Center occasionally but it's often quite expen$ive , I can only imagine what a rebuilt OM617.952 engine will go for...

I'm just a Blue Collar Joe so every dime counts ~ this isn't my ' Hobby Car ' ~ this is MY CAR ! as in daily driver .

GWNorris3rd 03-07-2010 09:15 PM

Hey Nate when you find out what the Classic Center quotes you for a OM617.952 engine let us know, inquiring minds want to know, but are to afraid to ask! I need a complete engine since my #5 rod dropped out of the bottom of the block:eek: I found a super low mileage 81,000, with 380's for compression, but it is on the east coast and they want $3,500 plus shipping... even thought my car is rust free and in very good condition (minus the engine) the most it would be worth running wound be $2,500 for a sedan.... only wished I bought a wagon or coupe! Love the car, but just cannot justify paying over $4,500 to replace the engine.

vwnate1 03-07-2010 11:41 PM

Dollar Value
 
I'll do just that ! :)

I don't have the $ to even think about a rebuilt one but I will ask justincase ya know :rolleyes: .

FWIW ; You could buy my NA 1980 Coupe ' On The Cheap ' ~ 90,000 miles and new paint , lotsa new & rebuilt things , you're close in and could bus/fly down and drive it home in 65* F ICE COLD R-12 AC ! for less than you'd think .

I really need to sell this car and am willing to take a bath on it at this point .

I need the $ to up fix my '84 Coupe's dead engine and SWMBO's new wagon .


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