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03-30-2010, 02:30 AM
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hot wire 1979 300sd
I am going to be looking at a 1979 300sd for a motor transplant . The Lady has lost the keys from her deceased husband. Is there a way to hot wire it to get it running without going through the hassle to get the proper keys? I can do it on an old chevy just unsure how it works with the glow plugs and then the starter. The body is rough but she said it ran good a year ago?
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03-30-2010, 03:02 AM
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I know you can jump the starter with a good screw driver... or there's another way with a jumper i dont know how to do, the problem is cycling the glow plugs etc.
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hum..... 1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed
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03-30-2010, 04:09 AM
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You will have to pull the brown line going to the fuel shut off on the rear of the injection pump.
Pull the cover off the glow plug relay, and pull the plug that contains the 5 wires going to the GP`s. Make a jumper wire to fit into each on the 5 holes of the plug. IE 5 seperate wires, then twist them together with a wire going to a 12v source. Battery or to the large wire in the GP relay with the 8 or 10mm nut holding it. Warm the plugs, jump the starter and Vroooom. Now with out the keys, you won`t be able to drive the car with the steering wheel locked. Unless you like to go around in a circle. Take the registration and drivers license to the dealer for a new key. they will need the Vin#. may have to take the lady with you, since she owns the car. Charlie
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03-30-2010, 09:33 AM
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Maybe you could get some advise from one of the local undesirables. I am sure they could get it going in less that 1/2 a minute.
 If its got the old slow wire GP's you only need to connect 12v to the wire to the back GP for a minute or so. Then the screw driver on the starter. The shut off vac line to the IP will need to be removed before you start.
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort....  1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles  1987 250td 160k miles English import  2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles  1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving
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04-03-2010, 12:45 AM
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Thanks for all the info...I will give it a try ...I know about the key and dealer, it was just tying to get her and I in the same place at the same time. Plus.........
I just wanted to see how the motor ran.....and then see if it was worth pursuing?
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04-17-2010, 05:12 AM
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Just as an update!. My son purchased the car for $300 he wants it for a diesel motor swap into his Toyota. The body is pretty rusty but the trim and bumpers are in good shape. We got it home and tried to start it with a not very healthy battery. By passed the "No Key" with a piece of 12 gauge wire to the starting circuit under the battery mount and wiring 5 different leads to the relay box and removed the plug as was suggested . attached it to the battery and let her rip..turn over and has a little rumble and then nothing ...hummm?
I also notice I didnt get a spark when I hooked up the glow plug bypass to the battery terminal??? So I pull the glow plug and test it on the multimeter for continuity..and nothing....I pull them all and nothing... So we Run to auto parts and get the 5 bosch pencil plugs install them ....and after over a year off it takes maybe 4 turns and it flashes to life.... smoothed out with in a minute or 2 and because I was running it on a pop bottle from the IP we shut it off...but was surprised and delighted it ran that good. Now to adjust the Valves!!!.... SO thanks to all of those who gave advise I am sure we will be back for other ideas of problem solving!!
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04-17-2010, 06:41 AM
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You & your son can now be the official Peach Parts hot wirers!!!
Or maybe thats a title you dont want? 
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles 1987 250td 160k miles English import 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving
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04-17-2010, 01:35 PM
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Nice! I was just going to suggest going to the dealer and having a key VIN matched.
I've always wanted to hot wire my car. Judging from the wiring it looks stupid easy and since I have the key there isn't a need to fight the steering wheel lock. I think one can attain MB coolness by push starting his car.
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04-17-2010, 08:56 PM
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Ohhh Goody!!!!......"Peachparts Hot wire King" !!.....:-)
Yes, I have to admit it is pretty easy to hot wire but ...you had better have a long straight road with the steering locked...:-) Now the fun begins trying to figure out how to convert the vacume shut off with the toyota key... I figure I will just use a push button with a relay for glowing Use the stock toyota starter just have the flywheel to get organized Temp gauge....Mercedes to Toyota.. Oh my mind spins :-)...but be a great Father /Son project and even daughters are looking into see how it works!!!
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04-17-2010, 09:19 PM
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An actuator, power to close would work for the shut off.
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles 1987 250td 160k miles English import 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving
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04-18-2010, 05:03 AM
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Being a 79, I don`t think you will have the EGR manifolds, good
.there a few forum members that have done swaps into other vehicles. "CELL" did one in a older Chevy Pick-Up. "DEALWITHIT" did a swap into a Mazda PU. Do a search on their name to locate the threads, and their challenges. I found this one in my notes, 53 ford PU. about pg 3 is a 66 Chevy PU, in teresting. 617 powered 53 F100 Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works Last edited by charmalu; 04-18-2010 at 05:29 AM.
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