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JEBalles 06-15-2010 03:09 PM

I agree with the above, but from what I know of you, I'd go with a used engine

1. You've got 2 spare cars, so tex can be incapacitated at least briefly.
2. You've got the tools and know-how (or at least resources) for any engine trouble you might run into.
3. You're paying for someone else's labor by buying Metric, which considering how much we work on these cars ourselves, we're not used to paying for that.

And I don't know what you plan to do with other motor. It'd be cool to rebuild it and swap it back after, or the other way around (buy a used engine, rebuild, swap in). That is, however, also expensive (a fraction of Metric, though) and time-consuming (probably the problem here).

I bet if you exercise proper diligence when shopping, you can score a rusty car with a good engine and possibly make your purchase back by selling stray parts and junking the body (Holland Used Auto Parts in Billerica picked up mine for free). Let me know what you plan on doing.

mplafleur 06-15-2010 06:28 PM

OK, OK, the Metric comes with an IP. I was trying to picture the motor as I've seen it in pictures. I guess the one I was visualizing wasn't a Metric.

My apologies to Metric.

dieseldan44 06-16-2010 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JEBalles (Post 2487200)
I bet if you exercise proper diligence when shopping, you can score a rusty car with a good engine and possibly make your purchase back by selling stray parts and junking the body (Holland Used Auto Parts in Billerica picked up mine for free). Let me know what you plan on doing.

You just want me to have another parts car :D It was a little bit too much fun taking the parts off the rustbucket 240D I had in the yard for awhile...



OK, let the search begin. If anyone sees an engine or donor car that looks promising, please do let me know.

Im ready for some automotive luck.

Skid Row Joe 06-16-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tee51397 (Post 2487192)
There's no right answer to this one, only the right answer for you and your circumstances. My opinion is put a new MB long engine in it and replace the ancillaries while you're at it but the value of the car to me far exceeds "book value" so I don't care. If I felt differently about the car I would absolutely go to the PNP and grab a used ending for $350 and roll the dice and not look back.

One thing though, you know the odometers start slipping so who knows what the mileage really is on a used engine.

Bottom line: This is a question only you can answer.

After enough trial and error I decided to buy a whole new/used car, instead of doing the resurrection deal time and time again.

Way too costly with the downtime and all the related parts/components that will fail after the install/rebuild is done.

Been there - done that.

JEBalles 06-16-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseldan44 (Post 2487587)
You just want me to have another parts car :D It was a little bit too much fun taking the parts off the rustbucket 240D I had in the yard for awhile...



OK, let the search begin. If anyone sees an engine or donor car that looks promising, please do let me know.

Im ready for some automotive luck.

Haha, yeah, except if I bring any more parts home my mum's gonna have my head on a pike. And it's not all fun, it's hard to forget that you're putting an MB to rest--don't forget to keep a token for remembrance.

JimmyL 06-16-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseldan44 (Post 2487587)
OK, let the search begin. If anyone sees an engine or donor car that looks promising, please do let me know.

Im ready for some automotive luck.

daw jumps up from his computer and springs into action!!!!!!!

Rick Miley 06-20-2010 06:11 PM

Metric is not the only quality engine rebuilder in the country. If I were in Boston and considering spending that kind of money, I'd take a couple days to drive the car to Orlando, leave the car with Noel's, and fly back. Then do the reverse in a few weeks after it is done.

http://www.noels.com/index.html

KCM 06-21-2010 06:15 PM

Find an independent mechanic who rebuilds engines and get a price from them on rebuilding your old engine. Tell them what your want done (new pistons, sleeves, bearings, gaskets & seals, timing chain & guides, and valves & guides). I guarantee they will be cheaper than Metric Motors. Sounds like Metric Motors does a lot more than needs to be done, basically a new instead of rebuilt engine.

jt20 06-21-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KCM (Post 2491633)
Find an independent mechanic who rebuilds engines and get a price from them on rebuilding your old engine. Tell them what your want done (new pistons, sleeves, bearings, gaskets & seals, timing chain & guides, and valves & guides). I guarantee they will be cheaper than Metric Motors. Sounds like Metric Motors does a lot more than needs to be done, basically a new instead of rebuilt engine.


I also do not understand the religious observance of 'The Great Metric Motors' on this forum.

these are not rare cars by any stretch.

plenty of machine shops have experience with these engines and MB in general. There's nothing 'special' about them.

Junkman 06-21-2010 06:38 PM

My SD with 240+ on it runs like a top. Others I've seen with similar mileage run just as well. There is almost no reason to spend 4k for a reman engine that needs installation when there are plenty of cars sitting around with great engines waiting to be swapped over. Find a running used engine & spend the savings on repairing the rest of the car.

frontwheel 06-21-2010 06:47 PM

why doesn't mercedes re manufacture euro 300d motors with 5spd transmissions?

Craig 06-21-2010 11:13 PM

Here are three reasons why buying a used engine is scary, you never know if some joker tried to rebuild it on the cheap:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Miley (Post 2490897)
Metric is not the only quality engine rebuilder in the country. If I were in Boston and considering spending that kind of money, I'd take a couple days to drive the car to Orlando, leave the car with Noel's, and fly back. Then do the reverse in a few weeks after it is done.

http://www.noels.com/index.html



Quote:

Originally Posted by KCM (Post 2491633)
Find an independent mechanic who rebuilds engines and get a price from them on rebuilding your old engine. Tell them what your want done (new pistons, sleeves, bearings, gaskets & seals, timing chain & guides, and valves & guides). I guarantee they will be cheaper than Metric Motors. Sounds like Metric Motors does a lot more than needs to be done, basically a new instead of rebuilt engine.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jt20 (Post 2491640)
I also do not understand the religious observance of 'The Great Metric Motors' on this forum.

these are not rare cars by any stretch.

plenty of machine shops have experience with these engines and MB in general. There's nothing 'special' about them.


jt20 06-21-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 2491771)
Here are three reasons why buying a used engine is scary, you never know if some joker tried to rebuild it on the cheap:


Consider myself, and others on this forum, officially insulted.

I will remember this.

Shark 06-22-2010 08:40 AM

Mercedes Engine
 
I Rebuilt mine a few years ago and here are the options I considered.

Mercedes rebuild from dealer $12,500.00

Metric motors rebuild $8,000

Junk Yard motor $200

I rebuilt it myself in my apartment!
For $3,700

long block

I blueprint and balanced the whole thing and rods.
New mercedes oil pump and sleeves.
New pistons and many parts.

If I had to do it over again I would Buy a new crank for $550
But I had the crank ground so I have beefier bearings.

I would also powder coat the aluminum parts instead of bead blasting and clear coating them. So It looks like one of Jay Leno's cars :)

Shark

JEBalles 06-22-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig (Post 2491771)
Here are three reasons why buying a used engine is scary, you never know if some joker tried to rebuild it on the cheap:

So, despite the insult, though, if you get the engine for practically nothing, who cares?


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