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tex599 09-26-2011 09:57 AM

How can I tell what refrigerant I have in my system
 
I am in getting ready to replace the a/c compressor and need to figure out if I have r-12 or r-134. Is there a way to figure it out?

tangofox007 09-26-2011 10:30 AM

What would be the year model of this car?

carnut 09-26-2011 10:42 AM

134 has different fittings to add freon. The hose to add r12 wont connect to a 134 system. And yes, what type and year of car do you have? 66 Pontiac or 2001 Rolls Royce. :)

jeffr0000 09-26-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by carnut (Post 2797692)
134 has different fittings to add freon. The hose to add r12 wont connect to a 134 system. And yes, what type and year of car do you have? 66 Pontiac or 2001 Rolls Royce. :)

I've got R134 fittings and yet it's filled with R12.

tex599 09-26-2011 12:17 PM

sorry, 1980 300d

vstech 09-26-2011 02:25 PM

a refrigeration analysis is the only way to be SURE, but if you have 134 stickers on the car, and you have 134 fittings on the car, it's a good guess that 134 is in there.
if you have the original 1/4" flare fittings on the car, it's a good bet that 12 is still in there.

toomany MBZ 09-26-2011 05:33 PM

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On my CD the lower one was not changed.

oldiesel 09-26-2011 08:19 PM

My wagon came to me with one of each type fittings.I Called every so called A/C shop within 50 miles and none had the ability to identify the refrigerant ! Most were not even aware that there was such a tester. Called an old friend who did alot of A/C work, he said put in "Freeze12"which i did and it has been working very well for over a year.He said it is compatable with both gasses and either type of oil.Not suggesting that you do the same but it worked for me. FLAME SHIELD ENABLED!!!
Don

sjh 09-26-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by toomany MBZ (Post 2797943)
On my CD the lower one was not changed.

That's probably because the guy did the conversion himself and just put the adapter on the low pressure side.

If you have a R-134a on your low pressure side I'd bet that's what's in there.

toomany MBZ 09-26-2011 10:52 PM

I'm fairly certain the new stuff is in there, that lower line is quite costly.

vstech 09-26-2011 10:56 PM

nahh, call phil, he's got GREAT prices on the lines!

sjh 09-27-2011 12:07 AM

I don't believe he is referring to his refrigerant line needing to be changed but that the R-134a adapter has been put on the low pressure side but not on the high pressure side.

At least that's how I read it.

tex599 09-27-2011 12:08 AM

It was r12 in the system, went back and looked at the records when the a/c system was redone. I disconnected the compressor and there was no freon in it, which must be the reason the compressor froze up. At first I thought it was just the clutch that went out, but the compressor when turned manually grinds. The o-ring on the back had a big gouge, so I assume that is where the leak was. Need to put a vacuum on it once I get the new compressor installed.

I am thinking the freon as well as oil leaked out and caused the clutch to fail. Any thoughts?

Codifex Maximus 09-27-2011 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tex599 (Post 2798150)
It was r12 in the system, went back and looked at the records when the a/c system was redone. I disconnected the compressor and there was no freon in it, which must be the reason the compressor froze up. At first I thought it was just the clutch that went out, but the compressor when turned manually grinds. The o-ring on the back had a big gouge, so I assume that is where the leak was. Need to put a vacuum on it once I get the new compressor installed.

I am thinking the freon as well as oil leaked out and caused the clutch to fail. Any thoughts?

Sounds likely. Oil gone probably caused compressor failure which in turn caused clutch to fail. But now, the point is, unfortunately, moot.

Air&Road 09-27-2011 08:11 AM

The ONLY way to know for sure is with the use of a Refrigerant Identifier. Most anyone who does any volume of auto refrigeration work will have one. Fittiings installed mean nothing, in spite of the fact that Federal Law requires that the appropriate fitting for the refrigerant used be present. Too many rogue conversions out there for this to be reliable.

Call your local shop and ask if they have a Refrigerant Identifier.


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