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panZZer 05-30-2012 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GregMN (Post 2946517)
If I lived near by, it would already be in my driveway.




For sale is one of a kind Mercedes station wagon 200t
Only few were made n not many were imported to us
Body n interior r in excellent condition
Has the good looking euro bumpers
Car has 4 cyl gaz engine that runs good n the 4spd manual tranny has a new clutch kit installed but now needs a throw out bearing .
Trying to get rid of it .
Can b converted to diesel or fix the tranny n either way u go u'll have a unique car
Call or text 919 333 8611

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same motor a 230ce has in it, usually found in 86 up in an american model

ngarover 05-30-2012 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wildest (Post 2946789)
Needs a battery, windshield, throwout bearing (which makes me wonder about the rest of the clutch work) but otherwise looks okay. I got a few pics from him, not the best but it didn't seem to have too much rust, the hinge pockets were full, couldn't tell if they were rust, ditto the battery area. I don't think it's running right now, night only take a battery and some fresh fuel.
Well, windshield is at least cheap... I just had a new one installed in my wagon last week in Chattanooga for 200 bucks....

If you buy it and find it needs seats, I have blue interior sitting here. Seats are like new.

junqueyardjim 05-30-2012 08:38 PM
It would be a great little wagon to put a 617 turbo into it. What a lovely little job and then you could easily slip that $17.00 release bearing at the same time. That is what happens when you try to save money. It will come back and bite you right where you carry your wallet. The 617 would have to have the correct head for that stupid hydraulic suspension. It does not have Uro lights. I think they are a little high on the car, and it is a long ways from Indy and I don't want to work anymore, anyway so I am going to forgetaboutit. But it is tempting!

panZZer 05-30-2012 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by junqueyardjim (Post 2946874)
It would be a great little wagon to put a 617 turbo into it. What a lovely little job and then you could easily slip that $17.00 release bearing at the same time. That is what happens when you try to save money. It will come back and bite you right where you carry your wallet. The 617 would have to have the correct head for that stupid hydraulic suspension. It does not have Uro lights. I think they are a little high on the car, and it is a long ways from Indy and I don't want to work anymore, anyway so I am going to forgetaboutit. But it is tempting!
nope--starter is on the DS of this motor

junqueyardjim 05-31-2012 09:44 AM
Well I was not aware of that, but that is the case. The starter is on the drivers side. However the problem is not impossible to solve as the bell housing on the manual transmissions used until 1982 late were cast separate from the transmissions and can be easily changed. A new one could easily be obtained from the dealer. If it is too much, then a used one could be had for the price of shipping plus a little for the part from junkyards in Great Britian and the Netherlands.

daw_two 05-31-2012 09:57 AM
another idea
 
Just drop a 300TD engine and transmission into it! Here's one for sale:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/318832-fs-300td-engine-transmission-memphis-tn.html
Oh, DUH!!! I have that for sale.

And here's a you tube of the engine running:
Engine Run - YouTube

I'm picking these up this weekend as part of the 240D in my garage trade.

T200 05-31-2012 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by meek (Post 2946554)
Was a carb engine. Back then they were what they designated on the 123s.
Gas motors consisted of 200, 230, 230E, 250, 280, 280E..only the 200 was available in the later years in carb form if memory serves. Of course add a T to make them wagons, not sure if I recall a 230T though, I know a friend had a 250T, think there was a 280T, but not 100% certain. All were at one time sedans, don't think the 200 ever was put into a 123 coupe either...
Actually might still have some early 80s german brochures for the 123s to go rummage through...:P
The are two '200' engines. The old M115 series from the W115, which was used until about 1980. A 2.0 with 95HP and a 2.3 with 109HP. Both carburetted. The M115 2.0 never found it's way int othe wagon (too weak), but the 2.3 did for a very, very short time - designated as '230T'.

With the introduction of the new M102 engine (now 2.0 with 109HP and 2.3 with injection and 136HP), the 2.0 found it's way into the wagon. Designated as 200T, and the bigger 2.3 as 230TE.

The 200T is by far not as rare as the seller wants to make you believe... The realy rare wagons are the 250T (7.704 made) and the 230T, of which only 6.884 have been build.

Biut they produced 18.860 200Ts. They just didn't sell them on the US market, I think (too low speced engine probably).

The 280 never found it'S way into the wagon without injection :)

T200 05-31-2012 02:44 PM
Oh and btw - the front plate is temporary german (valid for 5 days) plate :D Kreis Mettmann

andrewjtx 05-31-2012 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by junqueyardjim (Post 2946874)
...that stupid hydraulic suspension.
That's one opinion.

A properly maintained SLS is actually pretty sweet. I managed to impress several folks (customers & employees) at Home Depot the other day when I loaded my wagon up with cement pavers.

Dr. Sternschnuppe 05-31-2012 04:16 PM
All 123T have a SLS and a mirror on the right. :)

Dr. Sternschnuppe 05-31-2012 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WNC123 (Post 2946559)
I wonder how a 4 cylinder engine would do in one of these heavy beasts
15 sec from 0 to 100 km/h. Almost like a 300 TD TURBO. While 300 TD need about 18 sec for 0 to 100 km/h.

A 200 T has 109 HP and 170 Nm. A 300 TD has 88 HP and 172 Nm. Not a greater difference... :rolleyes:

junqueyardjim 05-31-2012 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewjtx (Post 2947414)
That's one opinion.

A properly maintained SLS is actually pretty sweet. I managed to impress several folks (customers & employees) at Home Depot the other day when I loaded my wagon up with cement pavers.
Well I did say that kind of off the top of my head. I believe it that when the system is in good operating condition it can be very nice. But i think the system is unduly complicated and messy. We had a 95 Lincoln Town car for a decade and a half, it had a system much the same, but uncomplicated. A little electically operated compressor up front, so small you could hardly find it. Then at the rear the airbags were twinned with a good shock, it rode good, carried a heck of a load and never gave a hint of a problem. I thought it was sweet!

Alastair 05-31-2012 07:36 PM
200T and 230TE were quite popular here in the UK.

There were many more 230TE than 200T around though. There were quite a few 200 (sedan) cars around too.

Of all the wagons though the 230TE and 280TE were the most popular here, not that many 300D/300TD in comparison.

T200 06-01-2012 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Alastair (Post 2947613)
There were many more 230TE than 200T around though. There were quite a few 200 (sedan) cars around too.
Apart from a sliughtly cheaper entry price, the 200T is/was the least sensible choice... Less power, same fuel consumption as the 230TE - which was not much more expensive.

And a 230TE is fairly quick, absolutely no troubles in modern TDI turbo-trafic :) A 200T however... Hmm... As has been pointed out, it's the gasser that comes closest to a diesel :D

Btw: they also made a W124 200T!

Codifex Maximus 06-04-2012 11:35 PM
The only thing that would scare me would be a carburetor. Oh, and rust.


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