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psaboic 07-15-2012 10:06 AM

Injector nozzles
 
Does anyone have a good parts source for injector nozzles? I'm wanting to replace the set on my 1983 300D. They have over 250,000 miles on them and I'm sure they are the originals. I checked Fastlane/Pelican Parts, but all they offer is the Bosch nozzles and I really do NOT want to try them what with all the issues I have heard.

Monarks are sold out where I have seen them for sale before, so I'm wondering if anyone knows where else to get nozzles.

Thanks,

Glenn

Stretch 07-15-2012 01:04 PM

From the little I know - if you can't get Monarks and you don't want Bosch then for the OM617 you're kind of stuck with Bosio. The last time I looked they weren't cheap.

psaboic 07-16-2012 09:22 AM

Let me re-phrase. I don't want to take a chance with Bosch right now. I'll get Bosio if I can find them at a reasonable price, but Monark would be my first choice. Basically what I'm asking is if anyone can provide me with some leads on suppliers, as the places I have found sell only Bosch, and the one source I knew of for Monarks are sold out! I would gladly post the name of my Monark source, but the website will not let me <grin>

Thanks,

Glenn

Brian Carlton 07-16-2012 09:31 AM

AFAIK, your source is the only source in the US, unless you find someone to resell them to you.

tq190 07-27-2012 10:00 AM

Sean Watts on the list used to supply the Monarch nozzles. Apparently is having difficult in getting the factory to ship them to him the last time I talked to him. Anyone has a phone number for him? I used to have it but can't locate it any more.

Tan

'87 300TDT
'91 300D 2.5t

shadetree77 07-27-2012 08:48 PM

i emailed the monarch factory a few months ago and they said $1000 USD minimum order. i've got some nozzles from dieselsend.de and so far they been doing really good (i've only put about 5000 miles on them though). i'm not sure if they're made in Germany or somewhere else. their house brand is called Henzo and that's what i installed. they popped very nicely and after about 1000 miles really smoothed out the engine and decreased the noise. i used the SD265 nozzles as they perform better in the OM617, you can also use the SD261 nozzles, but i have never tried them. i think noone makes the original SD240 nozzles anymore

shertex 07-27-2012 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psaboic (Post 2974221)
Let me re-phrase. I don't want to take a chance with Bosch right now. I'll get Bosio if I can find them at a reasonable price, but Monark would be my first choice. Basically what I'm asking is if anyone can provide me with some leads on suppliers, as the places I have found sell only Bosch, and the one source I knew of for Monarks are sold out! I would gladly post the name of my Monark source, but the website will not let me <grin>

Thanks,

Glenn

Mer say dees sorc dot com

Diesel911 07-28-2012 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadetree77 (Post 2981203)
i emailed the monarch factory a few months ago and they said $1000 USD minimum order. i've got some nozzles from dieselsend.de and so far they been doing really good (i've only put about 5000 miles on them though). i'm not sure if they're made in Germany or somewhere else. their house brand is called Henzo and that's what i installed. they popped very nicely and after about 1000 miles really smoothed out the engine and decreased the noise. i used the SD265 nozzles as they perform better in the OM617, you can also use the SD261 nozzles, but i have never tried them. i think noone makes the original SD240 nozzles anymore

It would be nice to have another choice of Nozzles!

$1000 USD minimum order I don't think is such an issue but it seems that Monark cannot keep that other place that sells their Nozzles supplied with enough of them.
This makes me think that if you had the money and ordered them that you might not know if they are going to arrive in a resonable time.
Also in an email several years ago C Sean Watts said He had issues with US Coutoms sitting on them and not giving a specific date when they would release them.

Diesel911 07-28-2012 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadetree77 (Post 2981203)
i emailed the monarch factory a few months ago and they said $1000 USD minimum order. i've got some nozzles from dieselsend.de and so far they been doing really good (i've only put about 5000 miles on them though). i'm not sure if they're made in Germany or somewhere else. their house brand is called Henzo and that's what i installed. they popped very nicely and after about 1000 miles really smoothed out the engine and decreased the noise. i used the SD265 nozzles as they perform better in the OM617, you can also use the SD261 nozzles, but i have never tried them. i think noone makes the original SD240 nozzles anymore

Did the SD265 have the Facet (flat spot) near the Tip of the Nozzle Pintel?
If it did it is is like the Monark Nozzles and the later Mercedes Nozzles.

Alastair 07-28-2012 02:11 PM

Both the 261 and 265 nozzles have the flat-cut pintle-nozzle needles....

Serves a similar purpose as the central hole of the 240/a type, and work well in 617

My personal choice would be the 261 for the 617, as M.B fitted them to the 'G' Wagen 617 engines, and they run very smooth, with good low-down torque....

Ive tried both and prefer the 261 for the 617.

Diesel911 07-28-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alastair (Post 2981447)
Both the 261 and 265 nozzles have the flat-cut pintle-nozzle needles....

Serves a similar purpose as the central hole of the 240/a type, and work well in 617

My personal choice would be the 261 for the 617, as M.B fitted them to the 'G' Wagen 617 engines, and they run very smooth, with good low-down torque....

Ive tried both and prefer the 261 for the 617.

Thanks for the info. The Monarks have the same Facet. Bosio Nozzles for the 617s have neither the central hole of the Facet.

Other than the company you gave I could not find any info on the Henzo Nozzles.
Did it say where they were made on the Nozzle of the packaging?
Düsen= Injector Nozzles
http://www.dieselsend.de/info2437010059.shtml

shadetree77 07-28-2012 08:19 PM

no, they came in clear plastic containers. they have Henzo and the part number laser etched on them. it's possible that these are just cheap chinese made nozzles and he puts his logo on them, but so far they have been performing very good

Diesel911 07-28-2012 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadetree77 (Post 2981627)
no, they came in clear plastic containers. they have Henzo and the part number laser etched on them. it's possible that these are just cheap chinese made nozzles and he puts his logo on them, but so far they have been performing very good

I sent them an Email and ask them. Hope they answer.

When I first got my Mercedes I bought some Brand X 7 Diesel Nozzles. Except for a Nozzle number they were not marked.
I Emailed that Company I bought them from and they claimed they were made be 7 Disel in Italy.
I did not believe that.
I was not having any issues with them but 1.5 years later I replaced them with Monark Nozzles.

Diesel911 07-30-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadetree77 (Post 2981627)
no, they came in clear plastic containers. they have Henzo and the part number laser etched on them. it's possible that these are just cheap chinese made nozzles and he puts his logo on them, but so far they have been performing very good

I Emailed Dieselsend over the Weekend and they answered Fast.
What Country are the Henzo the SD265 and SD262 Injector Nozzles Made in?
Dear Mr. Innerbickler,

thank you for your request. All DN0SD... pintle type nozzles that are
branded 'HENZO' are maufactured in northern Italy, exclusively in one
special factury. The factury provides a constantly high quality.
The 'HENZO' brand is my own.

I am at your service for further information,

Henrik Raulefs

www.DieselSend.de
Marthastr. 48
20259 Hamburg
Germany

supercub 07-30-2012 10:25 AM

I got my Monarchs on ebay. The site that sold them did not have them listed at the time but I messaged him he had them and he sent me an invoice for them.


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