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Zacharias 07-20-2012 02:18 PM

Nitpick issue: difference in electrical switch functionality
 
Ok here is one that bugs me continually but I never bothered to ask about: On my '85 300d, to open the sunroof you push on the top of the switch -- the part with the icon.

However, for the side windows, pushing on the icon closes the window. To open you push on the other half of the button, the 'blank' part. Same for all four windows.

I find this an odd contradiction. So did the sunroof team not read the memo from the window team, or is something awry on my car?

daw_two 07-20-2012 02:22 PM

whoever last cleaned your window switches put them back together wrong.:D

Stretch 07-20-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daw_two (Post 2977096)
whoever last cleaned your window switches put them back together wrong.:D

Yep that sounds about right...

...perhaps you could wire it differently and not pull the switch to bits?

I don't know 'cos I don't have any electric options on my car!

daw_two 07-20-2012 04:19 PM

big grin
 
I was just joking around..........although, now, the OP has me thinking. I'll have to look at all my switches when I leave work.

compress ignite 07-20-2012 06:15 PM

Window Switches and Auto Up/Down.
 
I replaced the Switches for both front Windows a couple of years ago,with
genuine MB Switches.Obtained from outside the normal Parts Streams.
As soon as I operated the New Switches,the Auto Up/Down feature was
RESTORED!
Obviously,some one in the past had replaced the Switches with ones that
worked,BUT didn't have the auto circuitry.

mikeyfev1 07-20-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacharias (Post 2977091)
Ok here is one that bugs me continually but I never bothered to ask about: On my '85 300d, to open the sunroof you push on the top of the switch -- the part with the icon.

However, for the side windows, pushing on the icon closes the window. To open you push on the other half of the button, the 'blank' part. Same for all four windows.

I find this an odd contradiction. So did the sunroof team not read the memo from the window team, or is something awry on my car?

Interesting, this bugs me too.

It seems that with a sloped panel, like the one the sunroof switch is on, the forward most (the top) of the switch would make the sunroof move in the forward direction. But it does not. And as the OP said, the functionality of the window buttons and the sunroof button don't match.

Jeremy5848 07-21-2012 01:19 AM

My '85 300D was that way, too. I just got used to it and I'm sure you will, too.

Jeremy

Codifex Maximus 07-21-2012 02:55 AM

I always end up pushing the sunroof switch in the wrong direction and have to reverse it. It's just one o' those things.

Stretch 07-21-2012 10:51 AM

What you're all saying that they were made like that?

Am I glad I've just got handles and levers and pullies and wheels and cogs and mechanical options on my car - I know where I am with that!


This problem reminds me of the light switches here in Holland and those back in England. Mostly in the UK you switch down for on - on household light switches. It is mostly the other way in Holland => switch up for on...

...now I know industrial switches have the gravity induced fail safe position - switching down - as off; which I can understand....

...but even so when we moved here I went round the house putting the light stiches as I wanted them!


So Zacharias - if you want them to work the other way wire 'em how you like!

Mark DiSilvestro 07-21-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Army (Post 2977511)
What you're all saying that they were made like that?

Am I glad I've just got handles and levers and pullies and wheels and cogs and mechanical options on my car - I know where I am with that!


This problem reminds me of the light switches here in Holland and those back in England. Mostly in the UK you switch down for on - on household light switches. It is mostly the other way in Holland => switch up for on...

...now I know industrial switches have the gravity induced fail safe position - switching down - as off; which I can understand....

...but even so when we moved here I went round the house putting the light stiches as I wanted them!


So Zacharias - if you want them to work the other way wire 'em how you like!

None of my W123 cars has a sunroof, but if the sunroof switch is built like the window switches, it might be easier to simply pop out the button and flip it round to match the window buttons.

Happy Motoring, Mark

charmalu 07-21-2012 12:51 PM

What Switches?
 
I guess I have been spoiled with the 240, no stressful decisions to make like which way to push a switch. :D

No Sunroof, and crank window winders. ;)

Charlie

Stretch 07-21-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmalu (Post 2977560)
I guess I have been spoiled with the 240, no stressful decisions to make like which way to push a switch. :D

No Sunroof, and crank window winders. ;)

Charlie

Charlie we should start a no-eletcrics luddite group!

Mark DiSilvestro 07-21-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Army (Post 2977567)
Charlie we should start a no-eletcrics luddite group!

My '84 Euro TD could be a 'luddite special' - manual 5-speed, manual windows, manual heat-AC, manual antenna & no sunroof. Oddly, it does have a power passenger mirror.
OTOH, my remaining stick 240D does have power windows and a (broken) power antenna. But with a solid, nearly rust-free body, I couldn't pass it up. No sunroof though.

Happy Motoring, Mark

charmalu 07-21-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Army (Post 2977567)
Charlie we should start a no-eletcrics luddite group!

Had to Google luddite to see what it was. You are right, we need to put a group together and start smashing all cars with electric windows and sunroofs. :rolleyes:

I do have an electric antenna to replace the manual one that got broke off :cool:.
but it doesn`t work and is "stuck up".

At leat my passenger door mirror is manual. :P


Charlie

Codifex Maximus 07-23-2012 04:32 AM

I don't know why but I just got this mental image of a Rube-Goldberg machine that destroys itself.


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