Ok here is one that bugs me continually but I never bothered to ask about: On my '85 300d, to open the sunroof you push on the top of the switch -- the part with the icon.

However, for the side windows, pushing on the icon closes the window. To open you push on the other half of the button, the 'blank' part. Same for all four windows.

I find this an odd contradiction. So did the sunroof team not read the memo from the window team, or is something awry on my car?

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Mac
2002 e320 4matic estate│1985 300d│1980 300td
Previous: 1979 & 1982 & 1983 300sd │ 1982 240d

“Let's take a drive into the middle of nowhere with a packet of Marlboro lights and talk about our lives.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

whoever last cleaned your window switches put them back together wrong.

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daw_two
Germantown, TN

Links:
Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior
No longer selling Cluster Needles Paint
No longer selling New Old Stock (NOS) parts

Past:
3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda"
04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben"
& many more

Yep that sounds about right...

...perhaps you could wire it differently and not pull the switch to bits?

I don't know 'cos I don't have any electric options on my car!

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

I was just joking around..........although, now, the OP has me thinking. I'll have to look at all my switches when I leave work.

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daw_two
Germantown, TN

Links:
Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior
No longer selling Cluster Needles Paint
No longer selling New Old Stock (NOS) parts

Past:
3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda"
04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben"
& many more

I replaced the Switches for both front Windows a couple of years ago,with
genuine MB Switches.Obtained from outside the normal Parts Streams.
As soon as I operated the New Switches,the Auto Up/Down feature was
RESTORED!
Obviously,some one in the past had replaced the Switches with ones that
worked,BUT didn't have the auto circuitry.

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'84 300SD sold
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Interesting, this bugs me too.

It seems that with a sloped panel, like the one the sunroof switch is on, the forward most (the top) of the switch would make the sunroof move in the forward direction. But it does not. And as the OP said, the functionality of the window buttons and the sunroof button don't match.

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Mike Frederick
1986 300SDL, 240K+ miles
1985 300D KaliKar, 270K+ miles

My '85 300D was that way, too. I just got used to it and I'm sure you will, too.

Jeremy

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"Buster" in the '95

Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970

I always end up pushing the sunroof switch in the wrong direction and have to reverse it. It's just one o' those things.

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Codifex
1981 240D ChinaBlue (Got her running with a donor engine.)
1983 300DTurbo w/sunroof.
1984 300TD manual sunroof. (Electrical Gremlins)

What you're all saying that they were made like that?

Am I glad I've just got handles and levers and pullies and wheels and cogs and mechanical options on my car - I know where I am with that!


This problem reminds me of the light switches here in Holland and those back in England. Mostly in the UK you switch down for on - on household light switches. It is mostly the other way in Holland => switch up for on...

...now I know industrial switches have the gravity induced fail safe position - switching down - as off; which I can understand....

...but even so when we moved here I went round the house putting the light stiches as I wanted them!


So Zacharias - if you want them to work the other way wire 'em how you like!

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

None of my W123 cars has a sunroof, but if the sunroof switch is built like the window switches, it might be easier to simply pop out the button and flip it round to match the window buttons.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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DrDKW

I guess I have been spoiled with the 240, no stressful decisions to make like which way to push a switch.

No Sunroof, and crank window winders.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

Charlie we should start a no-eletcrics luddite group!

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

My '84 Euro TD could be a 'luddite special' - manual 5-speed, manual windows, manual heat-AC, manual antenna & no sunroof. Oddly, it does have a power passenger mirror.
OTOH, my remaining stick 240D does have power windows and a (broken) power antenna. But with a solid, nearly rust-free body, I couldn't pass it up. No sunroof though.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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DrDKW

Had to Google luddite to see what it was. You are right, we need to put a group together and start smashing all cars with electric windows and sunroofs.

I do have an electric antenna to replace the manual one that got broke off .
but it doesn`t work and is "stuck up".

At leat my passenger door mirror is manual.


Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

I don't know why but I just got this mental image of a Rube-Goldberg machine that destroys itself.

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Codifex
1981 240D ChinaBlue (Got her running with a donor engine.)
1983 300DTurbo w/sunroof.
1984 300TD manual sunroof. (Electrical Gremlins)