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Achtung - Das schweinhund baby benz thread
G'day Folks,
This thread started life on the tech help section of the forum but has now been moved to the new long term projects section. I bought the car as a daily driver but things ended up going a bit wrong for my 1992 W201 190E 1.8 It is chassis type 201.018 (not sold in the US of A) but lots of it will look pretty similar to 2.3 litre M102 owners and there are of course lots of euro goodies on it. It has a M102.910 engine – fuel injection (hence the E in 190E) which on paper produces more power than the older M102 2 litre carb engines in the W123. It should produce 82kW and 154Nm not dreadful with the weight of the car being 1170 kg. This engine has the duplex chain (not the more temperamental simplex ones which were made earlier) which is a plus despite its piddly size for a Mercedes. It isn't a super fast sexy car but it isn't too bad – 60 mph at 3000 rpm and illegal speeds above 4000 rpm (I guess) in top gear which is 4th... ...faster than a non turbo W123 300D which is what I'm used to. Here are some pictures ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Since buying the car I have done quite a bit of work on it. Some of the work done has prompted the following spin off threads that might be of interest. The W201 differential refresh thread 717.412 (5 speed manual gearbox) refresh W201 annular axle re-boot – much easier than W123 homokinetic axles! W201 steering box refresh and adjust If anyone thinks other content in the thread is worth assembling into separate threads please let me know. These long build threads are nice to follow and read but they aren't necessarily the best way of showing how to do small jobs within the bigger whole.
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! Last edited by suginami; 04-22-2014 at 05:32 PM. Reason: Requested by Stretch |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It has just over 170K km on the clock which is probably correct. In general it feels like a new car if it wasn't for the => Known problems so far 1) Slight whine from differential at motorway speeds it isn't too loud yet (well known fault for the W201 apparently) 2) Driver's door lock doesn't lock but will unlock 3) Small amount of drive line shunt – not too bad 4) Wallows slightly in corners at speed – probably needs some suspension help in the next 10,000 km or so... 5) Slight steering wheel wobble at speeds I shouldn't be doing – so not really a problem 6) Ever so slight top end tapping clatter at revs above 2500 rpm – barely noticeable but there Project “the hunt for rust (be)fore October” is to commence ASAP!!!!! I've seen some bits on it already I want to put a stop to it as quickly as I can. I'm buying shares in Dinitrol
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! Last edited by Stretch; 07-10-2013 at 04:40 PM. Reason: Added in pictures |
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Note to self - Differential information
201 350 11 39 ring gear and pinion 1:3.64 (5 speed)
201 350 18 39 ring gear and pinion 1:3.46 (4 speed) ![]()
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Another note to self - gear box and diff ratio information
5 speed transmission data
![]() Estimated road speeds that do not take into account any losses engine power aerodynamics etc etc ![]()
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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TRAITOR! ![]() Congrats on the beautiful new car!
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1968 220D, w115, /8, OM615, Automatic transmission. My 1987 300TD wagon was sold and my 2003 W210 E320 wagon was totaled (sheds tear). |
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OH YEAH
So the search is over? Great looking auto. You no doubt will have years of enjoyable tooling around your part of the world. Tell me one thing.....I've never seen that style of seat material...what would you call the design? It also looks clothe not leather. Whatever it is, it sure looks clean. Congrats.
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Bad isn't it?
(But I think you've probably heard about the Dutch government's new anti-diesel laws that are probably coming into effect)
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Now I can start to enjoy myself. I don't know much about the car yet - the seller called the cloth interior "Karo" - but I don't know what that means. More pictures of the car in the advert => Mercedes Benz 190 E 1.8 1992 Zwart 171000 km. PRACHTSTAAT ! - Mercedes-Benz - Marktplaats.nl (This link won't last for long though) Here's the output from the Russian VIN generator (which unfortunately doesn't help with the answer about the interior) ![]() ![]() Looks like the AMG steering wheel has gone east...
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Interior code is 317 which according to the information here
MERCEDES BENZ VEHICLE OPTION - PAINT - TRIM CODES - MBWorld.org Forums it is fabric - plaid black Outside paint is 199 - called black pearl (blue-black) (blauschwarz) metallic
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Y'all got all the good stuff across the pond. I wish our 201 had manual windows, climate control, steel wheels.
Think you could score another set of E codes? These sealed beams are downright dangerous. Trade you a 201 trunk spoiler! haha. |
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I'll bet you an Euro to a bagel you don't make it until October on the rust.
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I don't want a spoiler but if you are feeling rich - as in you want to spend lots of money on shipping - then send me a PM if you want me to find you some stuff. I'm out shopping for bits as it is anyway...
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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...no really I do...
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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What....Tiny...Car... What happened to the W140 Land Yacht.....
Martin |
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Thats a sweet W201!
![]() Mine used to be a gas M102 (2.3 liter version)....that engine passed on and has been replaced with an OM601. Slow but durable and way better fuel economy. I do wish I had a 5-speed manual like that!
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- ![]() '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
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