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whunter 09-06-2012 05:01 PM

1992 300D 2.5 vacuum pump "FAILURE" ball bearings fell into timing chain
 
This owner put off replacing the vacuum pump FOUR years.
The timing chain is intact but damaged, and must be replaced.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ak_vtixw_2.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ak_vtixw_1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...e_vtixw_13.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...e_vtixw_14.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...re_vtixw_6.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...re_vtixw_2.jpg

There are more pictures here.
1992 300D vacuum pump failure pictures by whunter - Photobucket

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engatwork 09-06-2012 05:37 PM

How many miles were on it?

Diesel911 09-06-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by engatwork (Post 3006870)
How many miles were on it?

And, was there Noise that was ignored by the Driver before the failure?

vstech 09-06-2012 06:59 PM

is this the one we were talking about on the phone? looks like I called that one...

whunter 09-06-2012 08:15 PM

Yep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3006910)
is this the one we were talking about on the phone? looks like I called that one...

The exact one.

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300D-91 09-06-2012 09:58 PM

Based on the photos this looks like the old style of pump / bearing. Is that true?

TheDon 09-06-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300D-91 (Post 3007038)
Based on the photos this looks like the old style of pump / bearing. Is that true?

Looks like it. Glad I upgraded my pump.

whunter 09-06-2012 11:01 PM

Yes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 300D-91 (Post 3007038)
Based on the photos this looks like the old style of pump / bearing. Is that true?

He was warned it was the early version, and could take out the timing chain.

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pawoSD 09-06-2012 11:32 PM

Makes me all the more reassured that my preventative replacement on my 601 was worthwhile. :eek: Old pump looked fine, but I don't like the looks of the exposed bearings. Just an accident waiting to happen.

sixto 09-06-2012 11:43 PM

In the second picture, if that's the vacuum pump under the radiator hose, it looks like it has screws holding down the cover. It might be one of those oddball mid-series pumps with an open bearing but screws holding down the cover. There was a listing of such a beast on eBay a few years ago. For the cost of a gasket and an hour's work, check to be sure!

Sixto
87 300D

sixto 09-07-2012 12:37 AM

How did the IP timer take it?

Sixto
87 300D

DieselPaul 09-07-2012 01:07 AM

Well according to service records it sounded like my 300D had vacuum issues for about 50,000 miles before I got it.

I pulled my vacuum pump to replace my injection pump and realized my open bearings were a little lonely. Opened up my oil drain plug, got a big magnet drug it around the bottom of the oil pan and...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...14C32B78F3.jpg

I put in an updated pump around 180,000 miles, but I think the old pump fell apart around 130-140k.

gsxr 09-07-2012 10:10 AM

What was the date code on the failed pump? (See photo below for secret decoder ring). Also, as Sixto mentioned, did the pump have the Torx screws on the front?

:pinch:

http://www.w124performance.com/image.../vac_pump8.jpg

whunter 09-07-2012 10:26 AM

Answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixto (Post 3007114)
In the second picture, if that's the vacuum pump under the radiator hose, it looks like it has screws holding down the cover. It might be one of those oddball mid-series pumps with an open bearing but screws holding down the cover. There was a listing of such a beast on eBay a few years ago. For the cost of a gasket and an hour's work, check to be sure!

Sixto
87 300D

No damage.

There are more pictures here.
1992 300D vacuum pump failure pictures by whunter - Photobucket



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zu! 09-07-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselPaul (Post 3007170)
Well according to service records it sounded like my 300D had vacuum issues for about 50,000 miles before I got it.

I pulled my vacuum pump to replace my injection pump and realized my open bearings were a little lonely. Opened up my oil drain plug, got a big magnet drug it around the bottom of the oil pan and...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...14C32B78F3.jpg

I put in an updated pump around 180,000 miles, but I think the old pump fell apart around 130-140k.

Wow! So you were driving around with all those little balls in the oil pan for over 50 k!!:eek: Nothing happened? No big bang, rattle or something?


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