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winmutt 01-14-2013 08:38 PM

60x Injector hard line broken, (by vibration) wtf?
 
Miraculously my #3 hard line started squirting back out the top. I tried tightening it down a bit wo luck. Suggestions?

Brian Carlton 01-14-2013 08:40 PM

A crack in the line beneath the nut.

Vibration eventually gets it.

Time for a replacement.

qwerty 01-14-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by winmutt (Post 3083797)
Miraculously my #3 hard line started squirting back out the top

Some of us never get to witness a miracle. Consider yourself very fortunate.

Brian Carlton 01-14-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty (Post 3083802)
Some of us never get to witness a miracle. Consider yourself very fortunate.

Yeah..........a miracle that I'd rather avoid...........

vstech 01-14-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winmutt (Post 3083797)
Miraculously my #3 hard line started squirting back out the top. I tried tightening it down a bit wo luck. Suggestions?

which car? the 603 lines are notorious for this...
if it's for the 617, I've got plenty of spare lines... none for the 603 though.

Diesel911 01-14-2013 09:47 PM

The Hard Lines crack more frequently if the clamps that steady the hard Lines are missing or damaged.
With in a few months of buying My Car I bought an extra set of Hard Lines; just incase.

winmutt 01-15-2013 11:18 AM

I dont have any 61xs any more.

scottmcphee 01-15-2013 02:50 PM

Plus the lines are dainty and probably wall thickness is down on the 603 compared to 617.

vstech 01-15-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmcphee (Post 3084196)
Plus the lines are dainty and probably wall thickness is down on the 603 compared to 617.

considerably.
lets put it this way...
the ID is nearly the same on both years... :eek:

raysorenson 01-15-2013 10:19 PM

I just had to buy a new #4 line for my 603. Probably the same deal. Squirting up from the fitting. The clips that hold the line to stop vibration were broken. Lesson learned. It cost me ~$60 OTD to have the part in hand the next day from the local dealership.

winmutt 01-16-2013 01:19 PM

I ordered all the clips and mounts, price was not cheap...

whunter 01-16-2013 01:34 PM

Answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by winmutt (Post 3083797)
Miraculously my #3 hard line started squirting back out the top. I tried tightening it down a bit wo luck. Suggestions?

This is common with the OM60x engines.
The anti vibration clips fail or someone forgets to re-install them.

Normal engine vibration usually cracks the steel line at the compression nut.
Line repair is difficult or impossible.


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jay_bob 01-16-2013 01:56 PM

I did this to my car (OM603.960), prior owner used zip ties and wire to hold hard lines in place.

The clips and pads are not exactly easy to install because they grab so tightly.

But once you do this you will be able to remove the line sets (1-3 and 4-6) as a unit if necessary.

Here are the parts for a 603 (h/t whunter)
Fuel Line Bracket 601-078-20-41-MBZ 2
Fuel Line Bracket 603-078-01-41-MBZ 6
Fuel Line Bracket 601-078-26-41-MBZ 4
Fuel Line Shim 601-078-04-86-MBZ 12

Here is a thread that has pics showing how to mount the clamps. Yes it says glow plugs but the subject came up in the thread.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/326478-glow-plugs.html#post3021080
The rubber pieces go between the hard line and the steel brackets. In some of the locations the pad needs to be trimmed to fit.

vstech 01-16-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay_bob (Post 3084764)
I did this to my car (OM603.960), prior owner used zip ties and wire to hold hard lines in place.

The clips and pads are not exactly easy to install because they grab so tightly.

But once you do this you will be able to remove the line sets (1-3 and 4-6) as a unit if necessary.

Here are the parts for a 603 (h/t whunter)
Fuel Line Bracket 601-078-20-41-MBZ 2
Fuel Line Bracket 603-078-01-41-MBZ 6
Fuel Line Bracket 601-078-26-41-MBZ 4
Fuel Line Shim 601-078-04-86-MBZ 12

Here is a thread that has pics showing how to mount the clamps. Yes it says glow plugs but the subject came up in the thread.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/326478-glow-plugs.html#post3021080
The rubber pieces go between the hard line and the steel brackets. In some of the locations the pad needs to be trimmed to fit.

understatement of the year here...:mad:

vstech 01-16-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter (Post 3084747)
This is common with the OM60x engines.
The anti vibration clips fail or someone forgets to re-install them.

Normal engine vibration usually cracks the steel line at the compression nut.
Line repair is difficult or impossible.


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well, which is it? :confused:
exactly HOW good are you with a mig?:D


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