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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 159k miles
06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 179k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU
91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 145k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete

19 Honda CR-V EX 77k mi
Fourteen other MB's owned and sold
1961 Very Tolerant Wife

Cool. And only for $100k. I'll take two.

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I wouldn't touch anything VW with a 10' pole, even if free.

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'06 E320 CDI
'17 Corvette Stingray Vert

The thing that gets me about these claimed MPG's is there is no accounting for the electricity you use to charge it up.
Its high time the hybrid mob came clean about the true cost of their toys.

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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group

I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort....

1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

Either way, autos are going the way of the diesel locomotive, which is a good thing. We'll have 80 mpg easy in a few years using this old skool tech! Plus, if you run the diesel on bio, you're near as carbon neutral as can be in a non -Flinstone powered mechanical conveyance.

The diesel-electric locomotive is a less efficient way to transmit power than a mechanical transmission. It is used because it is a convenient way to get a heavy load moving without a complicated gear train. The efficiency comes from steel wheels on steel rails, not the diesel-electric drive.

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'83 300D, 126K miles.

Thats unfortunate for you I guess. I've got a TDI Jetta wagon with 165k miles on it that has only needed normal routine maintenance, and get 43mpg. How come you're so leery of VW.

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Actually they do factor electricity into the figure, or at least attempt to do so on the US models. The Nissan Leaf did anyway.

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2009 ML320 Bluetec
1985 300CD
1981 300TD

Past Mercedes
1979 300TD
1982 300TD
2000 E320 4Matic Wagon
1998 E430
1984 300SD
1980 300SD

I had a 2003 VW Jetta TDI. It had right at 180,000 miles on it when I treaded it. It was faultless, and never even had to replace the fuel filter. It had the 5 speed gear box, and I was always impressed with the get up and go. I thought my 240 diesel was reliable, but it wasn't even in the arena with the Jetta!

Wants! But it will probably cost an arm and a leg. If only they would offer a car like the Volt with a diesel.. if only...

I would! I hear there's a market for parts...

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"Senior Luna, your sense of humor is still loco... but we love it, anyway." -rickymay ____ "Your sense of humor is still loco... " -MBeige ____ "Señor Luna, your sense of humor is quite järjetön" -Delibes

1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

I agree...and along with the cost goes the environmental damage caused by the extra electricity coming from COAL plants.

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83 300td 207,XXX

Volvo's got this ...

Volvo Details Diesel-Electric Plug-In Hybrid, Gas Version Coming To U.S.

But why the plug-in diesel hybrid? Why not just a diesel hybrid? I would think a Prius with a diesel engine in it would get considerably better mileage at hwy speeds upping the EPA average fuel economy.

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1983 300CDT -- 177K

Plug-ins allow the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) crowd to move the carbon foot print elsewhere, like electricity from the wall is "magic" somehow.

Agree that a regenerative diesel would be a better way to go....but no one has asked me (us).

Around 50% of the electricity delivered to customers by our local investor owned utility is from carbon-free sources (hydro, nuclear, and renewables). So plugging in allows the "NIMBY crowd" to access this at a very low cost. Some plug in customers in CA can access a rate structure for plug in vehicles that costs about $0.05 per kWh. So basically, plugging in at night can be incredibly cheap and relatively clean. Combine that with a diesel vehicle running on biodiesel, and you have a pretty clean way to get around.

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1968 220D, w115, /8, OM615, Automatic transmission.
My 1987 300TD wagon was sold and my 2003 W210 E320 wagon was totaled (sheds tear).