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Old 01-23-2021, 05:39 PM
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Thumbs up Seat Repair

KUDOS ! .

It looks good to me, I wish I could do that .

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Old 01-23-2021, 08:45 PM
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Sorry!

It looks great though!

Uhm, thanks for trying out my idea. Sorry I said it would take an hour. Wow you have grit.

I haven’t started my blue seats yet. I have a continuously variable stitch length adjustment on my upholstery machine. My thought was to adjust it till the needle was able to hit the holes repeatably. But this is another one of my theories. Definitely the side boxing will have to be disassembled for access.

Thanks for taking the leap.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:49 PM
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Post The Time It Takes

Well ;

Once you do a thing a few times it usually becomes far quicker....
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Old 01-23-2021, 11:30 PM
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Sorry!

It looks great though!

Uhm, thanks for trying out my idea. Sorry I said it would take an hour. Wow you have grit.

I haven’t started my blue seats yet. I have a continuously variable stitch length adjustment on my upholstery machine. My thought was to adjust it till the needle was able to hit the holes repeatably. But this is another one of my theories. Definitely the side boxing will have to be disassembled for access.

Thanks for taking the leap.
It was certainly an expedition =)
And again, the discovery of the sewing awl made it awl worthwhile.

I had a similar thought re: my sewing machine. It's about a 5 on the stitch dial, but without complete certainty, constant tension and machine like precision (on my end) I saw myself getting 30% of the way and then accidentally punching new holes a fraction of a mm off.

Keep us posted!
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Old 01-24-2021, 12:36 AM
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You know that awl is a really awesome tool. Mine has paid for itself many times over. Especially when I fix the strap on my wife’s fancy shoes and purses when they come apart.

My cheapskate dad taught me how to use one when I was a kid.
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Old 06-13-2021, 12:46 PM
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1981 W123 Front Seat Cushion Replacement

Seat padding part number: 123 910 29 50

Ordered from World Upholstery & Trim for $240 (3 months lead time). Made of coconut husk or fiber bonded with rubberized resin.

MB part # 123 910 38 16 - Discontinued.

Opted not to use the new seat padding (made from coconut husk or fiber) since the original "foam" padding is still in good condition. Wasted money, should have disassembled the seat first before ordering.
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Last edited by jotscan; 06-22-2021 at 06:28 PM. Reason: Added suppliers, pictures
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Old 06-13-2021, 10:36 PM
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I have some 126 seats apart. The pad PN is 126 910 2650 NLA from Mercedes but I've seen them from upholstery people.
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Old 06-14-2021, 09:11 AM
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Mercedes Manual section 91.4-100

See attachment: Section 91.4-100 Removal and Installation of Driver's Seat.
Instruction seems to be for another model not for 1981 240D
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Old 06-14-2021, 11:05 AM
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Thumbs up W123 Driver's Seat Buns

I see it also has a 114 part number....
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Old 06-18-2021, 02:29 PM
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1981 W123 Front Driver's Seat Up & Down Rail Repair

Adjustment stuck, cannot access the rear bolts to remove the seat for re-upholstery.
Applied WD40 the day before in the up & down rail, then used a slide hammer pulling on the round nut, see picture.
Inserted an aluminum U-channel between the lock notches and the lock on both sides to allow movement of the rail.
Used a 50 lb. weight to help apply/push down the seat spring while removing/lifting the seat cover lock.
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Old 06-18-2021, 11:31 PM
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Did some rear seat repair with S springs. 9 ga bought on eBay. I got 10’ for $20.

My 300sd rear seat was getting really saggy. When I’d sit down in the back I’d feel the seat crush down and clunk on the Pan under the seat. I tried pool noodles a couple of years ago but my experience with those is they hold the seat up but eventually they crush down and lose springiness.

So I saw the M….source videos on YouTube showing their expensive kit with a springs. I decided I’d try to replicate it. I basically cut 8” lengths with about 8 coils each and attached them between the front lip and the pan where the old springs attached. I basically wired them in in parallel using stainless steel safety wire. Right in the area where the springs are bent into kind of an L in the vertical direction in the cantilever portion of the springs. Sorry I didn’t snap a photo. I put four on each side and two in the middle.

It really worked well. The seats have their spring back and my passengers aren’t bouncing off the floor boards.

I’m going to do the same to my 300d soon and I’ll snap some photos. Basically the seat comes out. The cover and horsehair comes off. Then I wire 10 x 8” pieces of S spring between the top and bottom of the spring box a long the front lip. If you sit in the collapsed seat it is really obvious where you need to add the support.

I’ll be back with photos of the second install. When it cools down. My garage is an oven now.

Edit - ah this video shows an example of how to support the cantilever springs.

https://youtu.be/jNHZZdNC6-o

I used safety wire to secure them. It reminded me of my mom using cord to secure springs in our couch when I was a kid. She would reupholster our furniture by tying the springs together with cords. You can also use the u bolts in the video. That’s cleaner. I think those are just aircraft cable clamps available at Home Depot.
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Old 06-20-2021, 03:35 PM
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Yes, the tracks tend to get crudded up and sometimes rusty making it very difficult to move them forward / back for bolt access~ best bet is to sit in the back with the front backrest leaned forward and push with both your feet as someone else holds the adjuster release up .

Be aware the seat can and will suddenly jump forward so make sure your helper doesn't put their wrist through the steering wheel or other carelessness .

I've had to remove the rear carpets and use a really good quality open end 10MM ATF wrench to get some junkyard seats bolts out .

You have to turn the bolt maybe 1/5 of a turn at a time it's really a patience testing job .

Once out of the car the tracks can be removed and cleaned, once clean grease *very* lightly with long fiber (like Lithium) grease, the 'dustless' grease M-B uses in the sun roofs or war surplus rifle grease both excel here .
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Old 06-21-2021, 10:14 AM
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W123 1981 240D Backrest Repair

The backrest padding was decomposing leaving a constant residue of coconut husk or fiber material on the floor.
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Old 06-21-2021, 10:18 AM
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The backrest padding was decomposing leaving a constant residue of coconut husk material on the floor.
I thought the originals were made out of horse hair
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Old 06-21-2021, 01:03 PM
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I thought the originals were made out of horse hair
Urban legend apparently.

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