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sokoloff 08-04-2014 11:54 AM

Rich - for my 240D I stuck a "BB" in the vacuum line coming off the EGR about 20 years ago. It's been fine ever since, but I'm not sure how much good it did. What does your kit do that the "BB" doesn't? I'm not trying to cast a negative light on your kit, but I'm just curious what the advantages are and if I should get one.

Thanks.

ROLLGUY 08-04-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokoloff (Post 3368557)
Rich - for my 240D I stuck a "BB" in the vacuum line coming off the EGR about 20 years ago. It's been fine ever since, but I'm not sure how much good it did. What does your kit do that the "BB" doesn't? I'm not trying to cast a negative light on your kit, but I'm just curious what the advantages are and if I should get one.

Thanks.

If the EGR gets a piece of carbon in the valve, it will leak exhaust into the intake. Other than that, as long as the EGR is closed, it will do the same thing as the block-off plate. The other advantage is that your car will loose a 1/2 pound of weight, and the stainless steel pipe can be recycled for about 20 cents :D
Some people like the look of the plate over the EGR and pipe.....Rich

sokoloff 08-05-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLLGUY (Post 3368566)
If the EGR gets a piece of carbon in the valve, it will leak exhaust into the intake. Other than that, as long as the EGR is closed, it will do the same thing as the block-off plate. The other advantage is that your car will loose a 1/2 pound of weight, and the stainless steel pipe can be recycled for about 20 cents :D
Some people like the look of the plate over the EGR and pipe.....Rich

Thanks for the info Rich - much appreciated.

mikeyfev1 08-05-2014 01:57 PM

Other advantages...
 
These are small issues, but they do contribute to the advantage of the block-off plate (on my 300D):
  • The EGR is not in the way. This is barely mentionable, but it is true that with the EGR removed some maintenance operations are simplified, e.g. changing the short coolant hose, working with the timing chain tensioner, etc.
  • I'm going to mention this, but you can do this with the BB solution. Removing the EGR inspired me to remove a good amount of vacuum hoses and controls leading to the EGR.

ROLLGUY 08-05-2014 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyfev1 (Post 3369025)
These are small issues, but they do contribute to the advantage of the block-off plate (on my 300D):
  • The EGR is not in the way. This is barely mentionable, but it is true that with the EGR removed some maintenance operations are simplified, e.g. changing the short coolant hose, working with the timing chain tensioner, etc.
  • I'm going to mention this, but you can do this with the BB solution. Removing the EGR inspired me to remove a good amount of vacuum hoses and controls leading to the EGR.

Thank you.....Rich

showtimex 08-05-2014 05:12 PM

Got my kit from Rich installed, ooooh shiny! 900 more horsepower and a minimum 49.5% increase in fuel economy! Plus my intake manifolds interior is now so clean I can eat my sushi off it! I guess the price was worth it :P

*disclaimer the above may be a slight exaggeration and or completely not true, viewer discretion is advised...

sloride 08-11-2014 09:07 AM

What is the thickness of the plate. Or do you offer different thicknesses? The reason for my question is while doing the delete I would like to tap the plate 1/4" NPT for adding a nozzle for water/methanol injection at the same time.

ROLLGUY 08-11-2014 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloride (Post 3371359)
What is the thickness of the plate. Or do you offer different thicknesses? The reason for my question is while doing the delete I would like to tap the plate 1/4" NPT for adding a nozzle for water/methanol injection at the same time.

It is 1/8" steel. It will accept a 1/4 NPT thread no problem. However, I had a couple of aluminum plates made for WI on my car a couple years ago.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/100_1044.jpg

I was planning to have more made, but they were a little pricey at the time and I could not afford them. I have a new machine shop that might be able to make them for less. PM for details....Rich

RoxanneIsMyFAST 08-11-2014 02:29 PM

Looking forward to getting mine! Thanks in advanced!

sloride 08-14-2014 08:38 AM

PM sent.

sloride 09-01-2014 11:10 AM

With a 3600 mile round trip in 4 days all ground service fee no next day air. Great service by ROLLGUY, and USPS. Quality looks great also. Maybe a week before it gets installed, they rock I don't.

RoxanneIsMyFAST 09-01-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyfev1 (Post 3369025)
These are small issues, but they do contribute to the advantage of the block-off plate (on my 300D):
  • The EGR is not in the way. This is barely mentionable, but it is true that with the EGR removed some maintenance operations are simplified, e.g. changing the short coolant hose, working with the timing chain tensioner, etc.
  • I'm going to mention this, but you can do this with the BB solution. Removing the EGR inspired me to remove a good amount of vacuum hoses and controls leading to the EGR.


Im trying to figure out actually what all can I remove. Can you help me out?

mikeyfev1 09-01-2014 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxanneIsMyFAST (Post 3380645)
Im trying to figure out actually what all can I remove. Can you help me out?

Look at the thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/252232-egr-removal-3.html; post #35 shows a 1985 300D and SD vacuum diagram and what can be removed. I have done all of this.

However, my car is a 1985 300D KaliKar; federal cars and other years have different components.

sloride 09-01-2014 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxanneIsMyFAST (Post 3380645)
Im trying to figure out actually what all can I remove. Can you help me out?

Just the EGR as far as I know on the federal version. I am going to have the plate drilled, and tapped for a nozzle to inject h20/meth
mist for combustion chamber cleaning, and any MPG improvment will just be a plus.

greazer2b 09-17-2014 07:59 PM

New Egr Delete kit ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLLGUY (Post 3368513)
I have found that the easy thing to do on the EDS equipped engines (well at least the '91 300D 2.5T) is to just put vacuum to the wastegate all the time. Unlike the 617's, the WG is normally open, NOT normally closed. With vacuum to the WG all the time, the car has all the power the engine can give, and runs great (kinda like a "greased cheetah chasing a bullet train"). I know some folks will balk at this suggestion, but I don't know what to say, other than it works. Changing the actuator is a big job for some, so this way is much easier. I know that the only over-boost protection you have with this method is in your right foot, but it has been my experience that these engines do not get close to an over-boost condition very often (if ever). Maybe when they were new and all the systems were in perfect working order was that protection needed. Always remember in situations like this: "your mileage may vary"- just sayin'........Rich

I am interested in a EGR delete for my 85SD Cali. Due to loose intake manifold last summer( 2013 ) I the removed turbo and converter. Wish I had known you then RollGuy could've used that test pipe, while there also yanked starter since it was dragging a little.

Had starter rebuilt locally then order turbo kit and install, then began the NASTY,NASTY cleaning to get crude out of the intake and tube.
That's when I noticed the EGR not working ( not hold even a little vacuum when applied)

So I would like to try one of your NEW EGR DELETE KITS I don't mind being Guinea pig.:ukliam3:
What do you guys think? :rolleyes:
greazer2b


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